posted Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:15
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I'm just taking the whole cycle down before anymore if you guys get shit in you pussy lol.
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I'm just taking the whole cycle down before anymore if you guys get shit in you pussy lol.
You put my name to shame you douche imposter
Lmfao I knew I saw this name before.
RustyhookerYa he did!!
I'll let you back when you cool off. Want to talk shit to guys looking out for your health and wellbeing. Talk shit about our community? If you don't care at all than why in the fuck are you here? Beat it bro for real your a little guy trying to use gear to replace your lack of effort , lack of diet and lack of proper training.
I guess that's that then.
That was my thought anyways.
WhoremoanssssI guess I'm just gonna go with test tren and anadrol. Two compounds I'm very fond of and an oral that's new to me. I was really interested in starting out the first 8 weeks with NPP though. Gain that mass and then harden it up with the tren. I don't want to run tren for the full 16 weeks because at that point it's just diminishing returns and unbearable acid reflux.
lol
gettin negged hard boy................ soon have a Troll tag to suit your fkn ass out attitude.
WhoremoanssssI'm not too worried about it man like I said I was just trying out a new board. Negs here aren't gonna make or break me lol. I just think ole rusty hook is a dick lol.
ive been doing this shit nearly 35yrs bro, high level too, been stood on stage with some real monsters in excellent condition.
i think you should reel that stack in a little bro...... plenty of time for some heavy rides when you have built a stronger foundation, also by taking your time you will learn your compounds far better than throwing the whole tool box at yourself at one hit..........
stay cool... use your head bro, you will thank yourself later i promise
WhoremoanssssThis is what I like to see man. Everyone should follow your example of what constructive criticism looks like. Thanks for the honesty and thank you for not being a dick about it. Judging by the communitive opinion here I believe I'm going to take the advice. At my stats I can still grow on lower doses and fewer compounds. Maybe I'm too eager but I really just want the experience of a big cycle and to be able to see a massive change over the course of 4 months.
i get the eagerness lol... yeah i was the same i must admit.. but being honest bro if you go with the big cal/macro diet i saw you listed you will shock yourself what a test/EQ/NPP array can actually produce... i like to get my guys up over 230 and higher before introducing bigger arrays... at this stage they are built and very strong, nominal gains in strength happen because they are peaked but the added compounds deliver their magic in a way they were meant to... meaning visually you can see bodily transformations take place in days not months!.
i know its boring to hear over and over and it bores me keep typing it but!.... Nutrition and Intensity is key bro.......... gear simply cups your balls and helps you heal.
i hope i have helped you some here ....... i dont want you to fuck up bro it not in my interest
Rustyhooker"I'm just taking the whole cycle down before anymore if you guys get shit in you pussy lol."
Yes...I negged you.
WhoremoanssssNeg me again fuck stick I don't really care lol. Mods hit me with the ban hammer already I'm done with the shill board.
Is that your final answer? Is that how you plan to talk to guys on here looking out for your health and well being? I will assure you there is no fucking shilling on this board.
WhoremoanssssAlright guys yes I know it's a big cycle and it still has potential to change. Here's a little bit of my cycle history:
I messed around with prohormones a lot while they were popular before I ever tried injectables. Probably 3 seperate PH cycles before using regular AAS.
First true cycle ever was 750mg/wk of PHARMA grade test cyp for 12 weeks. No need to mention how I got it but it was W****n and P****r straight from the pharmacy.
Second cycle was a short 8 weeker with 500mg/wk W****n cyp
Third was Sust/test E 750-1000mg/wk with Equipoise at 800mg/wk With some Tbol toward the end.
Fourth cycle was Test prop 150mg ED plus finna brew tren ace at 75mg ED with superdrol for 4 weeks.
I've always been in love with the gym but I struggled with addiction and lost everything so if it wasn't for me having to start all over my stats and lifts would be better. The reason my total isn't all that impressive is because I'm a bodybuilder who is just beginning to join the powerlifting world. It's new and exciting and I'm starting to love it. That 1300lb total is my first ever "max out" attempt and it was done off cycle about a month after PCT. I didn't realize I was going to get negged for posting my idea for a cycle but I don't really appreciate it. I'm here for community not being looked down upon because I want to try some larger doses. But yes I'm 6ft tall, 210 pounds, around 10% BF. I also don't post pictures of myself on open forums, and I have good reason not to.
Rustyhooker"I've always been in love with the gym but I struggled with addiction and lost everything so if it wasn't for me having to start all over my stats and lifts would be better"
Beginning and end of story. Your cycle is arranged garbage. Way above your head, skills and poorly designed. You gotta fix your 12 steps or slowly die out miserable.
WhoremoanssssI don't get your point? I'm 2 years sober from drugs and alcohol. I don't consider my use of hormones an addiction or a problem for that matter. And quite frankly I have to disagree with you on the cycle being poorly designed. It's designed exactly the way I want it to play out and to cater to the results I would like to see. Test and tren base and winny are the only things that are a bit out of place but I wanted to try something new. Test NPP and dbol to start off with is to add size and weight fast. Then tren and adrol for massive strength and their synergistic effect on each other.
RustyhookerThen do it! You're set up to fail...go on and do it.
2 years sober doesnt make sence if you're still not gaining. And there's no way your stats are real.
Whoremoanssss2 years ago I weighed 120lbs brother.
RustyhookerIll then repeat myself. Just do it. You are deadset to do it. Jump if you feel froggy.
Whoremoansssswell you've already told me it's a shit cycle so what would be your recommendation? What would YOU do in my situation?
Wanna know my opinion?? Run something simple like sust and npp. Shit, kick start it with a oral. That laundry list of drugs you listed off scared me!! No way I'd do all that. I'll never be on a stage as a pro, so no point in it. There might be three people on this whole forum thats been stabbing themselves longer than me. And guess what?? I still put it on only using 750mgs of sust and 350-400 of npp. I was a stupid ass and started stabbing myself at 18 years old. I'm 39 now.. Do the math.
That right there is perfect. Id even sub out the NPP for deca and run the cycle a little longer than usual. Pulse Drol 2on2off and then focus on pounding down carbs, carbs, and more carbs.
Especially considering he's just venturing into PLing, he's going to need to look at the gain long term vs short - 2-3 years or so. Trying to set records after just one cycle and running all these compounds is only asking for an injury because his tendons aren't going to be used to pushing the heavy weights.
WhoremoanssssFor the record I respect your opinion. What you described here seems like a great option and I'll consider it. Only difference is ill run tren instead of deca or NPP lol.
Good luck. If you're hell bent on either or then stick to NPP, your joints will thank you.
WhoremoanssssThank you sir. Also I appreciate your levelheaded attitude. I would rep you if I could lol.
None needed bro, just happy to provide some guidance. Don't wanna see you make mistakes that wreck you down the road.
RustyhookerHe's been here before. Just a troll.
WhoremoanssssNever been here before actually lol. You just annoy me. I'm already well established on other boards I don't need eroids. So yeah I guess I'm just trolling now.
Rustyhooker+2 for real talk. Im about to hit what you just posted. Works great too!
WhoremoanssssYeah I started at 20 and used relatively high dose straight from the jump. Good advice though.
RustyhookerI'd post your plans on macros. Go back to a basic test/nor/oral. Nothing big or crazy. The 300 pound dudes on here...thats what they're running and setting records with. One homey on here I set him up a test/var/eq cycle and in his weight class I saw him raw bench 500 easy. He won and got sponsored.
But thats just me
Whoremoanssssi posted macros below in another reply. 350g protein 500g carbs 200g fat and might increase depending on how things go. I come from a place where guys compete on 8 grams of gear and take 150mg adrol daily. I'm talking about guys who cruise on a gram and half of test. Real crazy shit man. But I think I'm going to take the advice you all are giving me and tone it down a bit. I'm still gonna go pretty big because well that's just the way I do things and always have. Here's what I'm considering now.
750mg/wk test e 1-16
400mg/wk NPP 1-8
40mg/day dbol 1-4
500mg/wk tren A 8-16
50mg/day Adrol 12-16
And for the record guys the only negative sides I experience with tren is back acne. I don't get the horrific sides everyone describes. Also, I always get pre, mid, and post cycle bloodwork done, and orals have never made my liver values go out of range.
RustyhookerThen JUST RUN IT. Another goofball statement wanting cosigner and im negging the you. You're bout troll status
WhoremoanssssWill do cupcake. Neg the fuck out of me, it's just the internet lol. Eroids blows anyway, shill central.
You sure you got enough gear in this cycle? rolls eyes
WhoremoanssssIt's always subject to change. Considering lowering the test to around 800mg and I might drop the tren/test/winny mix.
Edit out the brand names...
You've got 4 compounds in there that you've got no experience with, and you're running an enormous stack for your 5th cycle... I'm sure you can see where we would see an issue here, especially considering this is supposed to be gearing towards a PL style routine and quite frankly some of these compounds make no sense for a PL stack...
You're trying to throw too many things together and hope it sticks. Simplify it the fuck down brother.
WhoremoanssssThanks for the honest criticism and I respect your opinion. I believe I'm going to take the advise of everyone here and tone it down a bit. Lower the test, and drop the tren/test/winny mix. I have never tried suspensions so I was curious as to how they work but its unnecessary. As for the test I'm still going to run it high, at least 800mg because that's the foundation of strength building, NPP early on to add good mass at a fast rate (first experience with nandrolone). Dbol then Adrol is sticking, my mind is set on that. And tren A is definitely sticking because I've never experienced such rapid and explosive strength gains with anything else. People preach recomp with tren but it can be the best lean mass and strength builder in your Arsenal of gear if used properly.
Your stack is still too complicated, too many compounds for your goals... You're trying to accomplish too much in too short of a time in my opinion, and you're running a high risk of injury thinking like that - especially in PL where your tendons and joints are not getting enough time to adjust to new strength gains. Add tren into that clusterfuck and you're going to be in a world of hurt.
Explosive and rapid strength gains mean you're not reaching anywhere near your absolute potential.
You're also wrecking havoc on your liver running Dbol and then Drol 2 weeks later... Basically running orals for 10 weeks... That's a no, no I'm afraid. There is a way to run orals for an extended period, but this isn't it.
And you've done nothing to address the most important part of your PL regimen. Diet. You're aiming for strength increases, so let's see the diet that is going to channel all the nutrients into that goal and worry about setting up a proper cycle after the fact.
WhoremoanssssMy diet is going to be in the range of 350g protein 500g carbs 200g fat.
You need to up the protein to 420g. 2g/lb, that ratio is constant, doesn't matter what you're doing. Fats should be a minimum of 20% of your diet. And the rest is all carbs...
WhoremoanssssThanks for the advice, I've ready mixed opinions on the 2g per lb of body weight protein ratio but it seems like that's the go to for users of AAS and I shouldn't be any different.
You'll always read mixed opinions. It's a tried and tested ratio, whatever you can't absorb your body gets rid of. Better to have and not need than need and not have.
Are you really 25?
Any chance of a self pic so we can see if you are up for it?
I don't think you'd like it......
LMFAO!!!
Shredded_wheatJesus. Iv never heard of a cycle this brutal. Im curious as to what your prior cycles consisted of? Please do not run this before you recive proper feedback