posted Mon, 04/28/2014 - 06:29
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Gotta hear some advice on beginner cycles and have heard good reviews about all the vets here and would like some insight . I've researched a lot and put together a cycle(simple). Let me know ifits good or what you'd change thanks for the help!
Test E.....500mg/WK for 10wks
D-bol......30mg/day for the first 6wks
Proviron.... 25mg/day weeks 5-7 if needed
Nolvadex....40mg/day weeks 13&14
....20mg/day week 15
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damn that hammer moves like lighting...
believer_84Was curious to see what was on this 1st cycle thread and damn I learned something already. RESPECT the MODS! Sucks it looked like he was doing good too taking the advice and all.
There was more to it then just this post. It was advice he was bumping in other posts. Every ban here is justified and for the better of the community.
believer_84Yea I seen that on one of iron something's thread that was locked. Said he heard about using an oral or something at the end of cycle to keep strength and drive up I've come across that too and thought he was just agreeing but its cool I'll listen to the big dogs and say "sir yes sir" ! Shot you a friend request I've seen your posts and you seem like a cool guy!
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to be honest bro your taking the info well from the eroids community (after reading the posts) ... that's refreshing to see my man.,
94sihatchThanks that's what I'm here for! Striving for greatness!
I just spyed this OPs pics............. http://www.eroids.com/pics/new-pics-42814 ...... #ZERO gear advice here please guys, all this fella needs to completely transform is some FOOD and training.
94sihatchRead other posts first please!
Who the fuck are you talking to?..... i read EVERY word printed on the board its my fkn job boy...... if you read my post correctly i was talking to other members... NOT YOU...... Stay out my way or your time here will be short.
Short in deed!
I found him in a different thread co-signing BS advice................. i refuse to have members harmed by clowns bro.
I saw that. Easy call and I agree 100%.
GOOD find... couldn't agree more, 5000 kcal diet and youd be growing in no time bro....
read some of VITAMIN - Vs posts on here he has a awesome mass shake which 2 x a day will alone prob give you more kcal than your already consuming.
diet, training, AAS
After reading below it's very refreshing to see someone here for a change with the right attitude. This is the quickest way to success. Taking all the good advice below and putting in the work. Come back after that and the vets will be flocking in to help you. They love that shit a man that willing to help himself. +1 bro
94sihatchThanks for the uplifting post I appreciate it. I'm hear for knowledge andhelp bro! Not in a real big hurry to fuck up my body, just want to know the best way to success and I've researched this blog and you guys seem to know your stuff! Thanks for the +!
Honestly bro I would hold off on cycling for a few reasons. I was exactly where you are a few years ago except a lot smaller. I was 6ft and 135lbs. I bought some dbol from my friend and did some research and decded to hold off a while. I trained naturally and put on 30lbs my first 7-8 months. This is natural, no side effects or anything. I continued to train natural until I got up to a pretty lean 190lbs which took about 3 years. So thats almost 60lbs not all muscle of course but a lot of it was very lean. I know its seems like a slow process which it is but you must remember this is not a sprint, its marathon. You can make GREAT gains naturally, almost steroid like gains as you body is so shocked about what your doing to it. If you cycle now, you risk losing a lot if not all of it due to your body not being used to carrying a lot of muscle. If you put on a quick 30lbs and in 3 months your body is not going to want to hold onto it. Its going to fight you every step of the way to return to normal. Now another thing is diet. I thought my diet was prefect when I was at your stage. Turns out my diet was shit. Now I'm not saying yours is, I'm just saying it takes a long time to find out what works best for you diet and training wise. I would advise you do do a nice clean natural bulk for a year and get up to 185lbs or so and then consider a cycle. You can get great results naturally at the with a good diet and training program especially when you are new to lifing and not carrying a lot of muscle. someone who is 150lbs is gonna put on muscle ALOT faster than the guy who's 200lbs and has been doing this for 10 years.
Feel free to pm me with any questions you have and I can tell you what worked for me in the beginning.
94sihatchHeck yeah irongame! Thanks for the advice! You guys have been a big help and I greatly appreciate it! I just hate seeing a newbie get some mad shit talked to him when all he was asking for was help and guidance! So far I've been done right and plan on being around for a while so hope to get to know you guys better and maybe help some newbies out in the future!
94sihatchThanks for all y'all's support and guidance. It won't go unused. Nice to meet some new people that actually want to help others make the right choices.
Several things here: First, you are very underweight to be running a cycle. This points to deficiencies in your diet, which is by far the biggest factor in gaining weight. Second, your cycle is not a beginners cycle. Spend some time using the search function above (the magnifying glass) and do some research on diet and beginning cycles. Check out the yellow highlighted subjects at the top of each forum as well.
How long have you been lifting? You really need to maximize your potential naturally before you even think about cycling.
94sihatchThanks for info. I just got done cutting calories to regain my six pack and for better health. I started to bulk up a year ago but was hard to cut the belly fat at the same time so i dieted and went from 185 to 155, I'm a truck driver in the oil field so I got really out of shape! But I'm a hard gainer and recently its been hell trying to get back my size I lost during my dieting I've lost a lot of my sex drive and overall sense of well being, lack of energy as well so I thought I mild test cycle would be sufficient to get me back going and I know alot about mass diets but with no appetite its hard to pound down some steak and rice or chicken for that matter! Again thanks for the info and concern your help is well taken. Not going for the swole look just trying toget that underwear model look if you know what I'm saying!
stats or no service
Post stats in your posts from now on.
you need to get your weight up natty first.
and you need to resarch some more. look into a proper PCT and I think you are a little confused about Proviron. To many things for a first cycle plan.
94sihatchIve been dieting to try and cut the belly fat, trying to bring the long lost six pack back! Last year before I got real serious about diet and weight training I weighed 185 with hardly any muscle tone. Now i have an alright physique abs are showing but really want to bulk up(hence the bulking cycle)! And as far as proviron its just there for bedroom purposes. The wife is scared about impotence! Thanks for the info guys
You may need to sacrifice that 6 pack. You can still eat big and clean. I'm currently taking Proviron, and it's not a PE drug. Some have increase in libido some don't, I don't see that big of difference in my sex drive. It's main purpose it to bind to the SHBG and release "free Test" which is what we need to build muscle. The potential of increased libido is a bonus.
just remember proviron is still a dht steroid, it can mess with your prostate and cause mpb, people recommend it all over the board like its candy, but I never see anybody warning the new guys about its side effects, like you said its good for the extra free test, and good for its anti estrogenic properties, but other than that not much else.
True dat, I was letting him know how I'm using it. I've never heard of anyone using it for an as needed thing, or for ED problems.
94sihatchYeah that's why I picked it to include in my cycle as needed! I'm gonna upload some of my most recent photos to my profile so you and the others can get an idea of where I'm coming from! To add to my stats and stuff as far as equipment I use I live in the middle of nowhere where the neatest gym is over an hour away so I have dumbbells, weight bench, easy curl bar and a chin up station not a whole lot to work with but im happy with it.
Proviron is not an as needed drug. It's taken throughout the cycle, but regardless Test only first cycle and your PCT is lacking. I don't get where you're going with the equipment thing. Since you lack equipment roids are going to fill the gap?
94sihatchMisunderstood me, you can use proviron in cycle to treat ed when it happens. Not saying take it when I want. And no roids won't fill the gap. Performance enhancement is all I'm after since my resources are limited as far as time(work in oil field), and gym equipment! And I asked for recommendations on a beginners cycle if mine I threw together wasn't what y'all would suggest. And for uploading pics its giving me hell saying to select a source(field is required)! Damnit!
All I'm trying to get at is it took hard work and no roids to get your weight down, so that hard work can be used to get your weight up.If time and resources are a problem, then a cycle sounds like a waste IMO choose eroids.com for the source.
94sihatchI know bro but like I said to vhman I've worked on gaining my size back but shit just ain't going my way. I've done my research on "am I ready for aas" and so far I meet most of the criteria. Trust me aas were last on my list and for you being younger then me I figure you would understand. I've been looking into this for a a few weeks now! I still can't upload pics or even change my profile pic damnit shits being stupid but I also wrote a post on introductions if you want to know more about me. Thanks Pin for the chat I'll catch up with you soon!