1 Test Cyp
A question for senior guys..
I started a cycle on Jan 2, here is the layout:
wk 1-14 Test C 500mg p/w
wk 1-14 1 Test Cyp 600 mg p/w
wk 1-14 Proviron 50mg p/d
wk 1-4 TNE/Superdrol preworkout on workout days
At first, I was dosing the 1 Test Cyp bi-weekly, and my body HATED it, I had an autoimmune respone (test flu) that was basically low grade fever (around 99.5) and chills and extreme lethargy.
After talking with the source, i started dosing the 1 Test Cyp 5x per week and much smaller doses.
At first, it worked well, but slowly the lethargy came back and fever occasionally. I MUST SAY IT IS MUCH BETTER THAN BEFORE, but still comes and goes.
I can quickly solve the problem by taking 800mg (max recommended dose) of Ibuprofen. When I take the Ibuprofen, ALL SYMPTOMS are gone within 15-20 mins.
My question is, should I drop the 1 Test Cyp, or continue to run it taking Ibuprofen when needed? Again, the Autoimmune response comes and goes, its not every day. My only concern is running a 14 week cycle and using Ibuprofen a few times per week (could be as many as 4-5 times a week) and what damage it may due to my body. Ibuprofen is not toxic on the liver or kidneys, and only issue is stomach problems, which i havent experienced yet, but all the reading ive done says ibuprofen shouldnt be run for more than 10 days at a time...
any input??
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Interesting. Going through the exact same thing right now with 1TC. First time using it. The well known brand I have was crashed when I received. I don't know if it is common for this product as there isn't much info. Tried heating it a few times. Goes back into solution but only for a few minutes before crashing again.
My first shot resulted in significant swelling, pain, mild fever, chills and decreased appetite within 6 hours and continued for 2 days. When this happens I always get lethargy to go along with it. I'm no novice when it comes to PIP but this was far beyond a little discomfort. Ibuprofen does help but I'm not willing to eat those all day for the duration of the cycle so probably giving it one more go with less oil then dumping it.
I have EXACTLY same issue. Smaller more frequent injections has definitely helped. Read what RustyHooker said below. We may be just having adverse reactions to.the PIP. Try cutting with GSO at ratio of 1.5 or 2 to 1.
Yeah, this was like no PIP I've ever experienced before, but symptoms seem to ONLY come on when I have painters at injection site. If I'm able to have a pain free injection, the symptoms don't ever seem to come.
We may just have to get creative with how we pin it. Try what RustyHooker was saying before dropping it. Thanks brother.
Did .5 today cut with .5 CSO. Pain hit almost immediately and lasted about a hour BUT so far no fever or swelling.
The loss of appetite especially sucks cause I'm on a bulk cycle.
RustyhookerIf bulking and loss of appetite, you can drop the 1test and bump the test to 600. Then you're on a basic testosterone run which is typically enough to add on decent mass.
Ghrp6 will also boost appetite per reading.
Yeah, Im really starting to think that my body just doesnt like the 1 Test Cyp, ive been using a lot of the injection methods you described ie showering before pinning, warming the oils, slow injections etc.
My body just doesnt like it for whatever reason..
I have a bunch of EQ on hand, Im gonna wait 2 weeks for the 1 TC to clear a bit then start with just Test C and EQ. The EQ will help my appetite and I can save this disaster of a cycle..
I shouldnt say disater, caus even though I feel like crap, my lifts are up a lot and Ive put on 9 pounds so far by forcing myself to eat even though I dont feel like it.. I just dont wanna feel lkke crap anymore..
It could be the SuperDrol I ran beastdrol which was SuperDrol. It causes lethargy and head aches. I also ran alittle hot for some reason I think the metabolic reaction of it burning fat makes you warmer than usual. But it could of been the test as well did you feel it on days only when you injected?
RustyhookerYou're on week 4? Stats?
Middle of week 3,
I started at 185 and about 15%bf
I am now 193 and about 15.5-16%
most of weight gain is probably from Superdrol, but i have been eating 4500 cal per day, and very clean, 50% carb, 30-35% protein, 15-20% fat
RustyhookerTrying to figure out if you got hormone flu or pip? Pip can cause flu like symptoms. Pin size? Rotation being used?
Hormone flu, ive used emergen C and its gone away. Zinc, mega B and vitamin c has worked for me.
And yes, if your body flat out doesn't agree with your cycle...you can drop that chemical.
Superdrol....ummm...liver values affect your energy as well. Are you taking liver tabs?
so, when i started having issues, I dropped the Superdrol and symptoms continued, i isolated issue to 1 Test Cyp, plus Ive taken Superdrol before, im normally good for 3 weeks before getting the lethargy,
im taking TUDCA and NAC, both of which I started 2 weeks prior to my cycle
at first I was only using Glutes and biweekly but 1.5cc of 1 Test Cyp, it was WAY too much
then I did 0.5cc 5x per week and rotating delts, quads and glutes, it worked well,
now i just started 1.0 cc 3x per week Mon, Thurs with Test C in glutes, amd Saturday cut with GSO and rotating Delts and quads
You may be right, it may be PIP, caus only time I have symptoms is when I have pain at injection site, this normally doesnt happen if I cut it with enough GSO or test Cyp, but it seems like it has to be 1.5 or 2 to 1 ratio, 1 to 1 doesnt seem to be enough
I might grab some Emergen C and see how that works...
Right now, when I feel like crap, I just take 800mg Ibuprofen and all symptoms go away... how bad do you think it is to use ibuprofen 4-5 times a week for duration of cycle??
and thanks brother for your help
and pin size:
glutes 23g, 1.5inch
delts and quads, 23g 1 inch
RustyhookerClick on my avatar.....my forums....pip forum. Ton of info there. I use a 25ga and 10 points of injection. Less trauma to muscle and plenty of time before you hit the first spot.
Dropdowns up top....accessories.... theres great pin dealers there. Take a peek after reading.
awesome, thank you brother... I will have a read..
Also, just pulled bloods today for:
CBC
Metabolic panel
Lipids
PSA
Testosterone LC/MS
Estradiol
waiting on results
RustyhookerExcellent! You're running tne which converts quickly to estro. Could be a lil funky. Bloods will prove your theories and reactions. Great job!!
Edit... there could be some issue to kidneys with Ibuprofen, but not sure if my dose of 800mg 4-5 times per week would be a concern...
Just something to think about. The words from Dorian himself. Starts at around 3:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKxF1N-YPEY
Very true. Probably not a great idea to start abusing the ibuprofen.