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what doseage of adex should I take during cycle?

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Im about to start my first cycle, and I've been told by who I feel is a reliable source to start taking adex on my third week in, and Clomid and arimidex post cycle. I have ordered a bottle of each, and I'm wondering what the recommended dosage is for each.

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Thanks for the help

DBG's picture

All his info is located down below brother...first cycle, in his 30's and BF % is a lil high.

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Stop it already...you and zewi are ALWAYS first and EARLY to lend the helping hands!! LOL

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How do you think I got all these points so far...in ONE week I got almost 50 because I was on ALL day for 7 days...I had to break the cycle of addiction PLUS I eventually had to go back to work!!! LMAO!!!

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HAHAHAHA!!! I hear ya....I'm always at work thinking 'Man, I wonder what's happening on Eroids...' and then get on my phone browser real quick..LOL!!! I hate being on here with my phone though...it's a bitch.

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Ya, that was a typo on my part, my bad

DBG's picture

Age, BF% and other relevant stats please!!

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for the Clomid and nolva are those daily dosages, or the total for the week?

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for the Clomid and nolva are those daily dosages, or the total for the week?

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k. I'm 34yrs old 6ft1in 240lbs. I meant nolva and clomid for post cycle. I'm going to cycle 500 mg of test. weekly.

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500mg test...

Wk. 1-12 500mg Test E
* split 2x/wk @250mg/pin (Sun. AM and Wed. PM, OR Mon. AM and Thurs. PM)
Wk. 1-12 Adex .25-.5mg E3D or EOD depending on sides and to keep estro under control

14 days after last pin, start PCT for four weeks

PCT = Clomid 100/100/50/50 and Nolvadex 40/40/20/20, take ED!!

BTW!! How much of that 240lbs. is bodyfat %??? BF will make a HUGE difference in your blood pressure, water retention and estrogen conversion!!

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Thank you for the help. I havent had a bf percentage done. I'd guess about 18 to 20%. and what do you mean take ED? Not sure what that stands for.

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ED = EVERY DAY....

....look man, a BF at around 20% isn't such a hot idea to run gear. You should really get that down a bit more before you start...to around 12-15%. Seriously...it can and will have an effect on your blood pressure and you might get some serious edema.

When it comes down to it, you can run all the gear in the world and still not have results if you don't have the diet down FIRST. Any 'Joe' can put a pin in his arse and eat garbage on roids...but then he will suffer some ill effects. You can either do it right or do it wrong and see which way works better...or you can just do it right the first time and be satisfied with the end result, just saying.

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K. Last night I met with my mom's friend who was a dietician, she did some measurements on me, and calulated my bf at 16%. I know it's a little high, but better than 18 to 20. So should I run the gear, or get it down a bit first?

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LOL...that's funnnnnyyyy!!! Mom's friend?...lookin out like that, ok. Calipers are pretty cheap and are about as accurate as you're gonna get as well. Forgot to mention that skinfold measurements are good. I'm sure a dietician is accurate though.

16 isn't bad...BUT it might be a good idea to get it down a lil' more. I mean...why not, ya know? Through a sound diet and the right training, you could get that BF down in at least 60 days. In that case, you're still good...as it'll be the first week of November and you can start your run then. Unless there was some reason you couldn't run gear Nov., Dec., and Jan? That's what I would do.

PLUS...you get that diet nailed down pretty good pre-cycle for 60 days, and then you will have a much easier time carrying thru with sound eating habits while running the cycle...BIG added bonus!!! Of course, you'll have to adjust your macros when the time comes to cycle!!

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You've been a lot of help and I'm gonna take your advice. I'm gunna get the bf% down, and hopefully start in November. I got another question for you. A lot of MMA guys I know speak good of echopoise. I was thinking of running 600mg of that a week with the 500mg of test. I've been told to run test two weeks longer than the eq. Any thoughts?

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First cycle!!!...NO EQUIPOISE!!!! Just run the test...introduce one compound at a time so you know how your body reacts. If you get side effects, then you know what compound is doing it whereas if you ran two compounds your first time out and got side effects then you wouldn't know which one it is! It's all about learning and knowing for your own personal reference and makes future planning proper for cycles

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I got one more question for you sir. Do I start Adex on week 3 or week 1?

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Yeah...it's up to you. I like to start on Week 1, and that's why I suggested it like that before when I layed all this out for ya...just as for the same reasons as cdaddy says below is why I like it like that.

Week 1, 2 or 3 is fine.

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Right on. thanks for the help

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ED stands for everyday, and I know you're not going to listen to me, but you should by no means be taking AAS at 18-20% bodyfat, drop it down to 12% atleast get your diet in check, doing steroids won't get you fit if you don't have a correct diet, and with that bodyfat you need some adjusting please look into the diet forum to get some help!

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My mom's friend who's a dietician calculated my bf at 16%, and I know it's a bit high. My brother and I train MMA, Jiu-jitsu, Muay thai ect. and a few months ago, he started using some gear. He looks great, but what convinced me to try some was the way he said he felt. He said He felt like he was 19 again. Now that's what I want, better recovery time. Being 34 my body doesn't feel like it used to after a long day of sparring, rollng, ect.

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Good post but you have a couple things wrong here Smile The adex shouldn't be started till week 3 as your estro on test only won't be affected till 3 or 4 weeks, only reason you start on week 1 is if you do short esters or something like dbol, and as for when to start pct, it's 15 days after last injection not 14 Smile