Tren D*** and depression
Ok so against all my good judgment I did a cycle of tren. I wasn't going to from the horror stories I read but I had a buddy who did it and was supposedly fine so I gave it a shot ( no pun intended). My cycle was a bit like this:
Week 1-10: 100mg of test prop eod
Week 1-8: 100 tren ace eod
With aromasin throughout.
I was a fool and didn't use hcg on cycle and now that I'm off and on week 2 of pct with nolva and clomid, vitamin E and low doses of asin I am feeling the hurt. Throughout cycle I had little to no side effects. But now I got the dreaded tren d*** and can't get it up no matter what I do. I'm constantly tired ( which is because of the low test, I know that from previous cycles) and am feeling really depressed. I can live with 2/3 but having a limp noodle is not cool at all I got some caber on the way hoping its not too late to use does anyone have any recommendations?
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So I went to the doc, and that asshole said I'm perfectly fine and the ED is all in my head, I told him it wasn't and to run more test but he wouldn't. I managed to get some liquid caber from Iron-dragon labs though, anyone know how long itl probably take to kick in?
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/how-to-contro...
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Sounds VERY much like the dreaded Devil's Bitch, Prolactin has dropped on by to pay you a visit, Mate.
Because when she comes a calling, it doesn't matter what you try to naturally do to get out of that slump and depression, unless you address the issue directly, she's going to be whispering sweet nothings in your ears until she's happy that you're NOT.
MAYBE you want to think about getting some Gynodel, (Bromocriptine), into you to address it, Mate.
On cycle I was using hulks liquid aromasin which is 25mg per ml and was doin .5ml eod and on pct I just dropped to .25ml eod.
And am doing clomid and nolva
100/100/50/50
40/40/20/20
Which is what I've done with previous cycles and have recovered great.
Thing is 19nors take a whole different PCT and ancillaries on cycle.. and at the very least people keep them on hand.. You are showing symptoms of elevated prolactin... prolactin supresses the ever loving shit out of your natty test.. which again just elevates estrogen more and this becomes a horrible mess during PCT.. Some guys are lucky enough to not get build ups from prolactin.. I say good for them but don't listen to them if they tell you not to at least keep caber or prami on hand..
I am telling you from experience you NEED to get blood work and start up on prami or caber asap.. elevated prolactin is so much worse when you come off of gear and you're trying to recover.
Ok ima try and schedule a blood work test for this week I appreciate all the help and input.
Tren's reaction is not the same as with test or other aromatizing compounds. It doesn't aromatize at all, so the AI isn't gonna correct a tren related issue. Omnom is trying to put you on some knowledge below. Not sure why you're avoiding finding out the answer.
Constantly tired, ED problems.. yeah prlly prolactin build up..
How does your PCT look?
stane at a low dose might help some.. Obviously it'd be smart to have prami or caber
The best thing you can do is get some blood test done.. include prolactin in the test
Agreed! I started to write something very similar then stopped to see if anyone covered it.
I'd like to see what the pct looks like also. Could be an issue with estro activity due to SERMs, but doubt it though considering no mention of a dope-ag. Not to mention the effects if nolva is tossed in before the tren clears.
Wish I still had the link, but I found a study some time back that showed a direct relationship between prolactin and estrogen. Meaning that when prolactin levels increase so does estro synthesis.
Oh definitely.. I was running a high amount of test a month ago.. I swapped over to tren.. I thought I'd see how it interacted with the higher test for the week it was leaving my system.. I immediately had high estrogen and prolactin sides.. (I never experienced this with lowtest/hightren infact I had a gyno lump shrink that cycle.) It's very obvious with deca or tren they increase estrogenic side effects when you put them with high dosed automatizing compounds.. If you find that study pm me with it I'd love to read it
Goto google scholar and search for something like:
Prolactin and estrogen relationship
Google scholar is nothing but case studies and scholarly articles. But your search string has to be more specific than with standard google.
yes you should of used caber, how much aromasin did you run? and what doses are your pct??