posted Sun, 07/03/2016 - 15:20
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Short Cycle, Shorter PCT?
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Hey Guys,
I already know the downsides to short cycles, shutdown and little gain, however If someone was to run a (relatively low) Test Prop + HGH cycle for 3-4 weeks could they get away with a shorter PCT? Does anyone have experience with this? If so what did you do/use?
This may sound stupid but please bear with me (I am a newbie) but for a short mild cycle could you just use a AI such as Aromasin?
Thanks in Advance
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I guess you would need bloodwork to see where you are at in 4 weeks. I don't think the benefits would be worth it to run such a short cycle, there's gonna be some suppression of your hpta at 4 weeks. I'm just not sure how bad it would be or if recovery would be any different.
If you're going to commit to a short cycle you might as well go 8 weeks and get more out of it. I don't think the recovery would be much more difficult, running some hcg throughout a short cycle would probably help a lot as well.
But I have no real world experience with cycles shorter than 8 weeks, it would make for an interesting experiment. Running a 4 week cycle and pulling bloods every week and see where suppression vs shutdown comes into play.
HGH would be useless in this type of cycle though, and I'm not aware of any alternative methods to restarting your hpta besides traditional pct meds. They are used for the simple reason that they work and work well if implemented correctly.
I know this is 4 weeks old, but to possibly help someone out in the future. I was on prop for 3 weeks at just 60mg a day and was completely shut the fuck down. My balls were still there but my bloods showed otherwise.
see here:
https://www.eroids.com/pics/ifit-test-prop-aromasin-3.5-weeks-in
Good info. Test P works pretty quick. I could see getting away with no PCT or just a mini-PCT if dropping it after only 1 or 2 weeks, but beyond that you have pretty much screwed yourself and are committed to a full blown PCT to help recover.
amen brother. and thanks.
bigmurphStick with the hgh and don't run aas. Its not worth shutting down for a couple of weeks.
I run 2 weeks on/3-4 weeks off and use about a 10 day pct. I only do about 4 of these for the warm months. From what I've read and maybe this came from anecdotal evidence, is that at 2 weeks you are not shut down. But any longer than that and you start the process of shutting down your natty test. At 4 weeks, you're shut down so would need a normal pct. Also, HGH should be ran for at least 6 months and has no impact on whether or not to pct. These cycles are good for filling out while eating at a deficit and getting that alpha male feeling with minimal sides. It is not for getting huge. Either way, I still run clomid/nolva, just lower dose. I do use an AI during my cycles too. Everyone is different so you may not need one, but have one on-hand. I always do a pct no matter what the cycle, it can only help even if it is overkill.
Hey I hit you up to get specifics, but my comment got deleted?
There is zero bennifit to a 4 week cycle .. Your shut down
Hi, yeah I know the pitfalls of a short cycle I was more interested in the PCT side of short cycles and potential alternative methods of restarting HTPA etc.