posted Mon, 12/03/2012 - 20:30
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My friend who has no idea about AAS whatsoever has told me he has come off his third cycle (No PCT between) of tren and test and massive dosses and now his nuts are the size of marballs, should he take Nolva and clomid now or is it too late, and is there anything he can do, it's his own fault but he hasn't lost heaps of size so he must still have natural test going right? Something more constructive than, he's screwed, would be appreciated.
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Ok so Caber is new to me. I do test only cycles I have good success with them and don't want to mess with too many compounds. I do not need caber for test only correct? I just need it for Tren or signs of milking etc which I don't do tren or produce milk lol. I always do the Clomid, Nolva, Aromasin PCT. Sorry if I hijacked your thread but Caber has been all over the place lately and wanted to double check as well as get more informed.
well 1st you need to look at the esters, are they short or long? then find out when was his last shot? thats what i would begin my basis on when to pct. it doesnt sound like hes dealing with any real problems other than ignorance, so no need to over do it on the pct with clomid, nolva, and aromasin all together. getting bloods is good, and if his doctor doesnt have a problem with it getting them now and post pct that would be a good idea, otherwise i would just get bloods done post pct to make sure everythings in check.
PCT nooooow.. Did he run caber/prami? he won't recover from tren unless he get's the prolactin under control also.. Tellem to get bloods done NOW get a pct built along the lines of
Aromasin ed at 6.25 through pct.. you can play with the dosing
Clomid 100/100/50/50
nolva 40/40/20/20
I've always been a fan of HCG with things like 19nors.. But lets just get him a proper pct first
Nothing man no ai no serm let alone letro or caber or anything i was absolutely gob smacked but he's not the only one heaps of guys are doing for a quick fix straight onto teen and test cycles, he didn't lactate or get any severe gyno, he's taking the clomid and nolva now, he doesn't have aromasin so i'll see if he can get some of that. He wants to cycle again in two weeks and i am battling with him to not, unbelievable the advice he has been given by the uninformed majority.
Givem a month off the cycle with no prolactin inhibitor, ai, or serms and see how fast he starts milking himself.. The added estro of no gear and no ancillaries is just going to fuel the prolactin sides bleh
Anoni have a group of friends that i train with occasionally that have the very same mentaility. most people don't like to be told they're wrong, and these clowns think they understand it already.. it is frustrating bc they are friends.. no caber or ai on cycle, and only nolva pct for 2 weeks... no matter what facts i bring to the table, there's always the guy that says, "this is my third or fourth cycle. i'm not new to this!" that's when i decide to back off and just blow them out of the water with better gains and quicker recovery with less sides.
they make a pill for almost everything, but not ignorance...
Anonadvice ^^^^
then ask him what did the 5 fingers say too the face bitch and.....SMACK!
he can run pct now. shoulld help just fine.