posted Wed, 10/03/2012 - 10:13
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PCT HELP with cycle
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Alright I will be running a 10 week cycle
Test Prop wk 1-10, 500mg/week
Deca NPP wk1-8, 200mg/week
Dbol wk 1-4, 25mg/day
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
Letro (as needed)
Now my question is about the PCT, I will be doing the typical nolva/clomid pct, but some are saying that Nolva is a NO NO with Deca???
So what should I run for PCT with clomid?
Thank you!!
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cdaddy7Here's you a PCT to follow
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD continuing the two weeks between last test shot and PCT
Week 1 PCT Aromasin 12.5mg EOD/Nolva 20 Daily/Clomid 100 Daily
Week 2 PCT Aromasin 12.5mg EOD/Nolva 20 Daily/Clomid 100 Daily
Week 3 PCT Aromasin 6.25mg EOD/Nolva 10 Daily/Clomid 50 Daily
Week 4 PCT Aromasin 6.25mg EOD/Nolva 10 Daily/Clomid 50 Daily
You may consider running Aromasin @ 6.25mg EOD on Weeks 1-4 if you feel 12.5mg is too strong.
NiCE! Thanks
Probably best if you cancel while you ahead and try again in a few years
Guys....don't forget to get stats and cycle experience. Goals too are helpful.
Sorry man
Stats
age 22
height- 5'7
weight- 180lbs
BF%- 12-13%
Cycle experience (this will be my 3rd)
1st one was the basic test e 500mg/week, 12 weeks
2nd one was the same, only added in winny the last 5 weeks
this will be my 3rd and I am planning on a nice bulk, but im trying to keep it short and simple
So...you haven't started? If not...the below advice is there. Read forums and its fully covered. Being prepared and you'll grow well. No tren! This cycle itself is big enough that if food is on point you should boost up fast.
No sir. Diet and training is in check, and its been 18 weeks since my last cycle. and NO tren for me for a long time lol
You're golden then! Pct two days after last prop...aro...caber...BOOM! Your cycle would hard cut you....ever think about the EBC ? Cutter should start in 3 Weeks.
I'll look into it. Thanks!!
My bad I read that as he was already in the cycle
Okie dokie. Nolva DURING a nor cycle is a no no. raises prolactin. During pct should be fine. Since he's on/finishing the zewi/cdaddy/gs aromasin-clomid-nolva stack. Too bad he posted late because hcg ON cycle can help if he got shrinkage from the nor.....also caber. Live n learn
keep a standard pct clomid 100/100/50/50 Nolva 40/40/20/20....you can keep aromasin during pct...check out zewi/daddy/gs post in the pct section if you want more info here. Also you could probably benefit from an hcg blast before pct. as far as caber, not experienced with it but should be run with a 19-nor to combat prolactin sides...not sure if it would help you at this point if run with your pct but maybe a vet can elaborate
High five! Did he finish cycle? Hcg is good on dekka/nor cycle.
no my dumb ass just read it that way, i was trying eat and type, i was obviously more focused on my food
I was planning on starting next week, and I have everything on hand even HCG. but then I was just searching around and this topic of NO nolva with deca came up, now im trying to figure out if I should use it or not during pct
Pct....yes. Keep water intake up and salt low with dbol. Glad you're starting low so you don't pufferfish. You can do npp at 250 and do well.
sounds good!! Thank you for the advice, I really appreciate it man!
this is a good awnser from someone els .not me.clomid is fine for pct,i would get some cambergoline on hand for any prolactin symptoms come up.
by experience we learned several times here that ther's probable rebounce of gyno symptoms with using nolva in PCT with nandrolone... why? ther's no chemical study, it would need bodybuilders on cycle in clinic to get the physiologic answer. ( impossible).
but the % of rebounce of estrogen level after a PCT with nolvadex with nandrolone, versus those than used clomid and got this side effect after PCT is about 50% from nolvadex, 40% not use or bad use of A.I during cycle with hight dose of AAs, 10% were realy too hight on BF% or realy prone about gyno. 0% from clomid.
that's the reason clomid is concidered by many mods, and veterans as the appropriate answer for PCT with nandrolone and trenbolone.
well ther's a lot of guys which never got problem after PCT with nolvadex, and feel better to run it than clomid ( mood effect) but it wil not affect the experience we got here through the years from thousands of members.
and we stay with clomid for PCT.
Thanks for posting this. I saw this in another forum, but Im just wondering what people here think about this topic. especially those that have used DECA/ NPP/ TREN.