posted Fri, 04/19/2013 - 15:35
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I'm planning my first cycle ever. Ive decided to do a test only cycle. I want to use the test P for 8 weeks 100 Eod. Ive read so much on AI and PCT, I'm more confused then before I started. From my reading I think the aromasin during my cycle and nova or clomid at the end of cycles is the direction I'm heading. I think I would like the HCG better just cant find anyone who has it in stock. Am I on the right track? Any suggestion on when I should start and how much. Thanks In advance.
5'10''
170lb
12-14 bf
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Thanks everyone for your input. I done a bit more reading and I agree the test E will easier my first time around. Being my first time would I want to front load with it, or am i just being impatient? If I'm running 12 weeks when should I start the aro? When should I start the clomid and nolva? Also I'm just taking a mega man multi vitamin from GNC. I've read a lot about supplements for liver and kidney support is that necessary with this cycle.
both Clomid and Nolva are used TOGETHER for pct
Typically at 100/100/50/50 Clomid
And 40/40/20/20 Nolva
On cycle estrogen control
Aromasin at 12.5 mg x2-3 times per week duration of cycle for estrogen control
Continue to research before you start any steroids
Lastly test Enanthate @250mg twice a week; for 500mg per week; 12 weeks
Would be a better first cycle to start with!
GATORGEAR
what is the standard beginner cycle test E, Ive read a lot about bloating and taking 3-5 weeks before really kicking in! is this standard for most people?
Im 36.
Drywallstar is the only reason you recommend not using the test p is because of the eod pining?
I thought i would like it better because of the shorter life span. I never used before and thought a shorter ester would be better in case i don't like the sides? this site is awesome i joined about 9 months ago i was 212 and 24% bf im glad i took the advice and didn't start till i was ready.
outside of the more frequent pinning required by the short ester version is the fact that the BA content is usually higher. this raises the potential for post injection pain (pip). the fact that you've never pinned before means that you can expect pain and swelling regardless. EOD pinning is not something that you should jump into head first. you need to give your muscles (injection sites) time to adapt to having foreign substances injected into them before you reach that sort of frequency.
the majority of your side effects are going to be associated with peeks and valleys in your serum levels, in addition to fluctuations in estrogen. the longer esters provide for greater stability, and your AI will regulate the estrogen synthesis process.
i like the idea of prop for a first time, but not in the way you're suggesting. prop has its place. this would be more ideal for you:
https://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/beginner-cycle-1-or-2-test-e-with-prop...
there are also two links in that cycle layout description for both AI's and pin sizes & site rotation.
Good luck!
age?
i should of thought to say that too!
Bro we all suggest Test e for the first run. Eod dosing schedule is alot of pinning for the first go. Hcg wont be needed because your nuts wont be shut down too hard even at the 12 week Test e run. You wont be disappointed with some good test e. I ran the standard beginner cycle and gained 30 pounds. I used liquid arimidex at .5ml every three days. Bro do some research on here and you definitely will find all the answers.