posted Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:05
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PCT for Test Prop
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JUst a quick question for my PCT thats coming up next week after a 12 week cycle. I'm going to be running Torem at a standard dose around 120/90/60/60/30.
My question is I have Aromasin left over from cycle and some Erase left over from another cycle i did last year. Would any of you incorporate either these into PCT at all?
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cdaddy7Try this PCT regimen option
Week 1 PCT Aromasin 6.25mg EOD/Toremifene 30 Daily/Clomid 100 Daily
Week 2 PCT Aromasin 6.25mg EOD/Torimefene 30 Daily/Clomid 100 Daily
Week 3 PCT Aromasin 6.25mg EOD/Torimefene 30 Daily/Clomid 50 Daily
Week 4 PCT Aromasin 6.25mg EOD/Torimefene 30 Daily/Clomid 50 Daily
I'm running torem right now for pct along with a lil nolva and my pct has been great so far feeling good still have my strength I am 2 weeks in on it
You can take aromasin during pct bro
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get yourself nolva and clomid starting 2 days after last prop injection. 40/40/20/20, 100/100/50/50 that is per day per week.
PCT starts in 5 days as of now and I only have Torem and asin on hand. So I'm thinking I'll just do 6.25 Asin EOD, Standard Torem dose ED, I also have some DAA I'll be using to at 3g ED.
cdaddy7Be careful you don't drop those estro levels too low....I gave u a good balanced regimen up at the top to go off of...the ai will make clomids job easier by binding the estro.....therefore u only need a low dose of torem to go with the Clomid for its synergistic effect on LH production
Thanks. Like I said tho I dont have Clomid this time around. So would a low dose torem be ok? Or better running Torem full dose solo?
cdaddy7You will b ok, but it may be a rougher recovery for you...Nolvadex is a great SERM but its the Clomid that really aids in kickstarting your natty production
cdaddy7This is why I push Nolva/Clomid combo in pct and why....Torem is equal to Nolvadex in its action, but you will see the difference in the two SERMs and their individual actions and synergism together:
Clomid and Nolva actions
Clomiphene works by blocking estrogen at the pituitary. The pituitary sees less estrogen, and makes more LH. More LH means that the Leydig cells in the testes make more testosterone....That right there is the difference. Doing this helps your testes come alive....Nolvadex stimulates the biosynthesis of luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) that in turn initiate both intra-gonadal testosterone production and spermatogenesis as well as systemic testosterone secretion and virilization. The blood flow brings GnRH into the anterior pituitary where endocrine cells synthesize and produce FSH and LH. Nolvadex helps with LH(needed for natural testosterone) and FSH(helps produce sperm) in the pituitary but doesn't block estrogen from the pituitary--it blocks estrogen in your chest with the breast tissue
All he has is Toremifene and aromasin. I am not familiar with Toremifene so I can't tell him if that will workk for him or not in combo with aromasin. Is he going to be ok with that?
cdaddy7It would-be SoHo much better if he had Aromasin and Clomid bc of its specific effect on natty kickstart.....Toremifene and Nolvadex are equal to each other in my book....he will b ok but he may have rougher recovery without Clomid involved but he will b ok....the way I look at situations like this I say something is better than nothing at all.....there's always next time to plan better....it's definitely by our mistakes that we learn or at least that's been the case for me...thats y i try to give these guys my strength, hope and experience so they won't crash and burn as i did....pretty sure my other vet brothers will agree with me as well
dexitrimcdaddy7, have you ever run Torem by itself, without nolva or clomid, just to see if it's as good as so many bro's have anecdotally reported?
cdaddy7Actually I have and it didn't work out so well for me, BUT that doesn't mean it doesn't work for someone else....it the same for me with why i use Aromasin over Adex bc I'm a non-responder....I know exactly what torem is and what it does bc I wrote a post on it sometime back as an alternative SERM to Nolvadex...I understand my compounds and i make my suggestion based off my research and experience in this....can he use torem alone? Sure....I'm just suggesting a PCT protocol that has worked for me in retention of my gains and also that has been suggested and endorsed by the site guru....understand my position of the best and safest option that I am suggesting with torem/clomid combo.....if he wants to use torem only or you thats fine by me...there's no arguing me on the safer option....i also base my facts on bloodwork bc the labs don't lie to me, just bc u feel ok doesn't mean u r ok on the inside...keep that in mind
dexitrimJust run the Torem like you planned. You'll be fine.
dexitrimIs Torem not effective for PCT?
X2 do as undertaker said thats standed pct