posted Sat, 02/22/2014 - 16:54
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Hey guys
I'm curious as to what you guys dose your HCG at for pct and for how long?
I've read through "anabolics" that you should do 1000ius every other day for 20 days
Now I read the article about PCT (Nolva v.s. Clomid) and the guy says 1500ius every 6 days.
And then I see 250ius every other day that people post on here.
What do you guys feel is the best dose and did the blood work back you up?
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ZewiAnabolXJust do a 10 blast of HCG before you start your pct.
If your running at total of 10,000 iu of HCG right before you start your pct, how would you break up the doses? I was planning of doing 2500iu every third day for a total 10,000iu.
Also this might be a stupid question but I heard this answered both ways, do you use a slin pin and pin under the skin or intramuscular?
100% what swolestanhope wrote. Every cycle I have used an HCG blast right before my PCT with great results. Generally I use 1000iu EOD for 10-20 days(starting a day or 2 after my last pin if long estered) up until 3 days before my actual PCT. The length will vary depending on how long my cycle was and what compounds I used.
If you are running a long heavy cycle(many compounds that generally include 19nors) it is generally recommended to use small doses of HCG(250iu 2x per week) while on cycle if you are NOT a TRT patient making PCT and the recovery process a bit easier.
You're supposed to run hCG throughout your cycle. 150 IU three times a week is probably the best. 250 IU twice a week is also good. You do not run hCG during PCT as it is counterproductive to the process due to the fact that it is suppressive.
ZewiAnabolXyou can do an HCG 10 blast before you start your PCT.. so its not counterproductive. but who am i to say anything..
BuckyDentureI dont know about that. I might have to argue a little bit on the "suppressive" part. HCG can be suppressive if used long enough and in high doses. I dont think the dose you recommend is a high dose. Yes it is generally considered not to be included in PCT but I believe a lot of that has to do with its effectiveness when coupled with clomid , otherwise HCG is known to stimulate the body's own natural test production which is what we want to start happening in PCT.
I think in certain cases where guys react poorly to citrates as in clomiphene citrate, they can sub in HCG. They would just have to let their test levels crash a bit more before starting HCG.
Just pointing out another perspective, but as I said as a whole I agree HCG would not be part of PCT
At high dosages it is debatable at low dosages which is what I recommend it simply does not happen. Remember hCG mimics LH so at a low dosage all it is doing is keeping your testes primed from when you are ready for PCT. Also don't forget we have LH receptors throughout the body and if those are not stimulated it's not healthy. HCG is not just for your testes.
Keep this fact in mind as well. That hCG is also used by healthcare professionals as a form of TRT with dosages exceeding what I recommend without any problems. Very successfully I might add in some individuals.
Just as a factual point also, Clomid is run at 25 mg EOD for TRT purposes as well.
BuckyDentureyes all that I agree with, and yes I do my self run some clomid now and again .
I was just pointing out that there can be circumstances where one might adjust dose and timing and actually use HCG in a PCT.
Im a big fan of HCG I use it plenty. I consider it very versatile , and I can see you do too.
hCG during PCT is counterproductive as it is suppressive.
The better option would be to have a TRT dose of testosterone so that one can function, alongside that run your hCG to prime the testes. Then stop both the testosterone and hCG and jump into a PCT of Clomid and Nolvadex. Since there are a lot more sides associated with PCT then with TRT especially when dealing with a time of weeks it's a lot better to do it the way.
that's my two cents.
BuckyDentureyou dont seem to grasp what Im saying, perhaps I didnt write my thoughts properly so we'll leave it at that. Enjoy your HCG I know I will
thank you.
SwoleStanhopeYou would want to start HCG before PCT, not during. 500IU a day, up to 3 days BEFORE PCT begins. The HCG Blast would last 10 days. You dont want to use HCG while in PCT, as long as you are taking it, it wont allow you to begin your own natural production.
Side note* Dont use the sterile water that comes with your HCG. Use bacteriostatic water. It'll only last a short time in sterile water, but the bac water will keep it good for some time.
So let's just say for examples I'm running test e 500mg/week and I want to do HCG. The standard pct is suppose to start 14 days after last injection of test e. So I would run HCG up til day 11 after my last injection?
Also how much is needed to stimulate the testes?