Forum: Failed PCT - What should i do? ~Goz, 2012

Goz

posted Thu, 07/05/2012 - 00:16

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Failed PCT - What should i do?

Hey guys,

A few months ago i finished a cycle of test prop 500mg/week. It came the time to start my new cycle next week and like all responsible users I went to have a blood tests this week to make sure everything is fine before i hop back on.

Anyway i got the results today and my test levels had literally not risen since my last blood test on the day after my previous cycle.

So this leaves me to the conclusion that my clomid was bunk, and makes me wonder how i should get my test up again and I don't want to wait for 5 months like my doc said.

So what are my options guys? is it okay to just do another pct 3 months after cycle?
I'm thinking 100mcg of triptorelin and 4 weeks of clomid.

Age: 21
Height/weight: 6'1"/88kg (194lb)
bf: unsure but pretty ripped, id guess 10-12%

Cheers for the help

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Theonslaught
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07/29/2012 - 04:48

I had same issue.

I did a second pct of clomid/nolva/DAA/ hcg 1000iu a week for two weeks.

Worked for me....

DBG
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07/06/2012 - 14:59

Ah Man!! So young to have this going on...U gotta get your natty test operating again for sure before even hitting some more gear.

Goz
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DBG
07/06/2012 - 19:08

yeah im so annoyed that i will have to be off cycle for so long, im thinking of going on hgh while i wait but living in australia makes it so difficult to get

DBG
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Goz
07/07/2012 - 10:16

I know U already started running, but I really meant you are still too young period. I don't think GH is the fix either, waiting for another cycle that is...did U ever research GH enough? So you know how much you have to take just to see some REAL muscular development gains?...it is ALOT and you have to take it AWHILE!!! Just for some informative reference

fast48
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07/05/2012 - 10:42

If you add a lil hcg.....make sure you have ai and use it. Clomid should get the signal back up

Goz
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fast48
07/05/2012 - 15:02

okay thanks, what AI would be better out of arimidex and aromasin?

~~mick118~~
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07/05/2012 - 06:21

I read a very recent study about clomid a couple of days ago where it was being researched as an alternative to trt for hypogonad men. And a small amount of men didnt respond to clomid, maybe like 5% or so had no test stimulation. So maybe you fit that category. Or it was Bunk.
Firstly I would try nolva + clomid. They work well together in my experience - even when ive been shut down hard by harsh compounds.
I would then try other test stimulation products like HCG, Triptorelin, cyclofenil - read up on how to use them.

Keep doing PCT till your test is restored - this is not optional at your age. That study i read had men on clomid for 9 months or so.

I would put off any more cycling for a while at 21. This sort of thing seems to be more of a problem for younger guys based on the 5+ years I have been reading forums.

Goz
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mick118
07/05/2012 - 15:06

cheers for the response i really hope im not in that 5%. Is it asking for trouble to use hcg, an AI, nolva and clomid?

~~mick118~~
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Goz
07/05/2012 - 16:11

Dont use HCG straight away
First step - nolva + clomid for 4-6 weeks. Then blood test, continue if progress is made.
Second step - HCG by itself then onto nolva + clomid. ai if necessary on HCG.
Read this - http://articles.muscletalk.co.uk/clomid-hcg.aspx

You will eventually recover from this. Testosterone is the one steroid that has been extensively tested in medical science/pharmacology.
I would consider not using harsher compounds in the future if you have significant problems recovering from test. Unless you want to be injecting test for the rest of your life. Not everyone fully recovers from gear - they either will get used to trt or take up another hobby.