posted Sat, 07/12/2025 - 06:27
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Estrogen Blockers
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I just started my first cycle of TEST C at 200mg a week. I just want to know if i need to take any anti estrogens at that dosage or if its not worth it.
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Dumb question for 2 major reasons: you're still a baby at 18 and you don't know your own bloodwork. No one can tell you that answer for certain but your own labs.
Everyone needs to get in the habit of always checking profiles before giving advice. Dude is 18. No steroids for you man.
You need to wait until you’re atleast 25. That’s when you’re endocrine system finally finishes developing and you have a better chance of not permanently screwing yourself up messing with steroids. Fuck with them now and there’s a decent chance your dick will never work right again, not to mention other problems. Had a few guys in my frat in college who messed with steroids at 19-21. Both of them had problems with ED ever since and needed viagra. Super lame to be a college kid who needs ED meds lol.
Get on a good diet, train hard for the next 6 years then consider gear if you still want to. Your natural levels are at their peak right now, don’t fuck that up.
Ranger3252You’re 100% right, no one should be using any form of AAS at least until 25, I started when I was 32. Don’t you have to be a certain age to post on this forum?
32 is even better. 25 is bare minimum though. Better to get someone to wait until 25 than start at any age younger. In an ideal world everyone would wait until their early to mid 30s. That’s when us guys learn some patience and do a lot better about thinking long term, about our health and longevity, and stop with the desire for immediate gratification.
Agreed, I trained natty from 15-31, with some breaks here and there. Just hopped on this year starting at a TRT+ dose slowly ramping up to minimize sides. Blood work every 3 months, and taking any needed ancillaries and sups to keep everything in range. IMO the fun is the progress, not the destination. Stay natty until the gains stop coming then you can consider using PEDS if the risk outweighs the benefit. And get your heath in a good spot before starting anything. Make sure your lipids, blood pressure, insulin sensitivity etc is all in a good spot then slowly bring on the gear, keeping an eye on everything as you go.
Let your bloods and symptoms decide. If you don't have any symptoms don't take any AI. Also if you are in range or close to it don't worry about it.
Ranger3252You should be fine at that dosage. I always have plenty on hand just encase. But bloodwork is your best friend in any regard involving hormones.
you should spend some time learning more about what estrogen is and does. you shouldn't aim to just "lower estrogen" without a good reason for doing so -- estrogen is good for you mentally and physically. testosterone converts into estrogen, and like a see-saw it's generally good to have elevated estrogen on one side of the see-saw if you have elevated testosterone on the other side.
next you should understand what you mean by "estrogen blocker". in bodybuilding there are two methods of dealing with elevated estrogen and managing its effects: one method is with an aromatase inhibitor (aromasin, arimidex) which stops the testosterone from metaboilzing into estrogen. the other method is through usage of a SERM (tomoxifene, raloxifene) which selectively blocks certain estrogenic side effects without necessarily lowering systemic estrogen... it's helpful to know the difference. probably good to carry at least 30 days worth of both (aromasin + ralox for example) in case you need it.
lastly you probably don't even need either thing on 200mg/wk test c. if you do need it, you'll have visible symptoms of high estrogen and that's how you'll know.
I doubt only 200 will raise you high enough but have on hand in case symptoms or bloods say super super high. If bloods say E2 low but nipples are puffy just take 10-20mg nolva a day. If bloods say super high and other symptoms then .25 arimidex or 6.25mg aromasin every 3 days. But again doubt 200 will put you anywhere