posted Wed, 01/06/2016 - 15:11
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12 weeks of Primobolan without PCT, how to fix it?
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Hey there!
28 year old male here. Last summer i bit the bullet and started a primo-only cycle with 300mg injection per week. I know most people will call it a sissy cycle but i'm pretty happy with the results.
The guy i was training with told me i did not need pct. My last injection was in August.
BUT! Last week i had a blood test done, and my hormone levels came back very low.
Free Testosterone is 5.3
Total Test is 2.3
Estradiol 5.0
It's been 4 months since my last injection, is it still safe to do pct? Should i do it?
I'm thinking Clomid 25mg per day, does it sound good enough?
Can i start primobolan again 2 months after running clomid?
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Madman has you lined up!..on a side note i didnt see a cycle history so i will assume its a first? Second?.....with you not knowing about running a proper pct after 12 wks of primo i highly suggest that YOU research and understand aas and what it takes to run a safe and sucessful cycle before even thinking about another one.
Stick around here awhile bro...its a great place to learn!...be safe
It's my first! 12 weeks of 300mg primo.
These things are very complicated and everyone has a different idea, that's the main reason i tried the relatively safer primobolan. Next time i need to be better prepared
you must feel like absolute garbage physically and mentally with those levels
Physically yes, body looks soft, have put on some weight and nothing to write home about in the gym. Mentally i think sertraline is keeping me in line
By the way I wouldn't be listening to that guy no more.
100/100/50/50 Clomid
40/40/20/20 Nolva
This is your standard PCT protocol. What did you run for PCT last time?
I'd hold off before starting anything else until fully recovered.
Thank you for all your help, i've acquired nolvadex 20mg and clomid 50mg and started taking clomid in the morning and nolvadex at night! Will update after a few weeks of progress.
Smart man..
Run bloods when your done and update this forum you've posted.
100/100/50/50 Clomid
40/40/20/20 Nolva
These are the daily dosages for each week, right? So the first week i take 100mg clomid and 40mg nova every day?
Yes i'll absolutely not listen to anything he says anymore.
I didn't run any pct. I only did 300mg primo for 12 weeks and that's it.
So i should start doing:
1st day 100mg Clomid
2nd day 100mg Clomid
3rd day 50mg Clomid
4th day 50mg Clomid
and that's it?
No, you need Nolvadex also.
Check out the link down below. Use the magnify glass up top to help navigate yourself through the website if you could basically find all the information you are seeking.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/ai-pct-dosin...
I don't want to overshoot it, since it's been 4 months after the cycle, i'm not sure how much recovery i need now. What's the nolvadex for?
And most importantly, if i was to use nolvadex and clomid without needing them, is there a chance of anything going wrong?
The page you linked to also recommends using aromasin. Is that any use for me?
Thank for all your help by the way, i really appreciate it. These things are very complicated to a first time cycler
I don't think you'll need the aromasin. Aromasin is an AI maining used while on cycle to help control E2 levels.
Nolvadex is part of your pct. Nolvadex/Clomid combo will help recover your test levels. Even after pct you may still need more time to recover.
Did you get bloods done before starting your primo cycle? If so how do your numbers compare?
Before the primo, my total testosterone level was 4.72
Last week it was 2.31
Then on monday doctor was curious so he ordered another test with a more thorough look.
This time the total testosterone came back 4.64
bioavailable testosterone is 1.55
albumin (serum) 4.4
LH 3.6
Free Testosterone 27.48
Sex Hormone B.G. 58.6
everything already went wrong when you didnt pct, worry about getting those levels back up not "overshooting it"
So they wouldn't come back up by itself, right?
bigmurphMadman is on point do exactly what he said and you should be fine your 28 with a proper pct protocol your levels will return to normal
Forgive my total lack of knowledge. I'm starting the clomid and novadex today. Clomid in the morning and novadex at night. What should i expect to happen in the next days and weeks physically and mentally?
bigmurphYou should start to notice that you are feeling better slowly getting back to normal and your testicles should show improvement .
Me personally during pct I don't usually feel any different its not noticeable for me. Everyone is different watch out for some sides effects just look up the drugs and read over the list this way you are fimiliar with what you might call weird feelings
you shouldn't expect anything to happen. your just returning to normal its slow and very subtle you won't experience anything like fat loss or more strength. its not like doing a cycle. you can just compare it to changing your cars oil, will your car run on old oil, yes, but for how long... so its important to regularly pct. every pro bodybuilder does it to help keep results coming for future cycles.