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+ 1 Your opinions about Trestolone (Ment)

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What are your experiences with Trestolone - acetate and enanthate?
What were your results and benefits? Is it worth trying?

DeeMan's picture

Lol quit throwing rocks ya rock throwing bastard!

Rosschestzip's picture

I usually use 300 short estered. But I don’t have any in the stash so i might actually try the long one this time, especially cus I already know how I react so sides aren’t an issue

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Drexyl's picture

Man that short ester just hits different lol, but the long will do the job

DeeMan's picture

You prefer longer over short ester?

Drexyl's picture

I’m going to say yes, for what I use it for. But, and it’s a huge but, if you want to use it to its full potential you want short ester and a lot of it. I should’ve clarified that earlier, estro control is one thing, but if you’re going into a show or photo shoot? Yeah, you’re going to have to ramp things up a bit.

DeeMan's picture

To me you made it clear that you were just speaking on its affect on estro at lower doses so I understood.

wanted's picture

And i make it clear. 400 - 800 changes your physique in amazing ways. But you can listen to drex and do 75 mgs if you want. Lol.

DeeMan's picture

75mg? Lol you bastard

23Sparta's picture

600-700mg and I feel like Zeus himself flown down off mount Olympus to teach the mortals how to lift weights. I have the body of a god, but the face of a torn sneaker

wanted's picture

Thankyou for speaking up. Some guys are laughable when talking dosages. Masteron is AMAZING

23Sparta's picture

It is an amazing compound, one of my favorites for sure. Muscle mind connection, focus, alpha. The leanest and hardest I’ve ever been was running high mast in a deficit.

Drexyl's picture

Air Force one, where the front is creased hard?

23Sparta's picture

Exactly, the ones you mow your lawn in

Drexyl's picture

You don’t know the sock tuck hack, only those of us who wore them and Adidas know w the secret of the sock front flip…

23Sparta's picture

Lmao, no idk the sock tuck hack Drexyl. I’ve actually never wore adidas or ones, I know lame

Rosschestzip's picture

Really you don’t? I’m shocked you don’t, I feel like you’d be a sneaker guy. I bet you’ve had a pair of Reebok classics tho lol

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23Sparta's picture

Lmao, I have had a pair of Reebok classics, that’s the down south Air Force one. I strictly wear Clark’s originals now, weavers or wallabies. One you slide in a pair of those you’ll never wear a sneaker again. I did have some cement fours in the joint though

Drexyl's picture

Agreed 100%
Edit- don’t remember saying 75mg though

Drexyl's picture

I feel like a dick for not being clear. When we give advice on these things, we should be crystal clear. I wasn’t and apologize to all. It’s all about being safe.

Rosschestzip's picture

Couple guys have given me a hard time for running it so long, saying I shouldn’t run a short ester for 18-20 weeks. But If I don’t mind the pinning, then I don’t see the issue. But I am kinda getting sick of pinning all short esters

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DeeMan's picture

So 400? That's your final answer?
You know I don't get down like that!

wanted's picture

400 my final answer FOR ai and getting the most out of the granite look.
Not sure why only use it for ai purpose when it can be a GAMECHANGER especially with your physique

DeeMan's picture

My physique is not all that Hollywood. Lol.
Well let me think, you do make a good point. But I always looked at higher mast doses like when a competitive bodybuilder would want that dry look. I hate that dry look. I tend to be weak and pull muscles when I'm dry. But I do see what u mean so in this case I'll agree with you. Now next time I probably won't agree

Drexyl's picture

400 is reasonable for someone who is familiar and has had baseline bloodwork done. Again, agreed 100%

DeeMan's picture

He forced me to agree. I think he's referring to that maximum dry condition. I don't like looking too dry at all. I love some hydration to the muscle. Always been my belief. The few times I was a bit dry I tended to pull muscles very easily

Drexyl's picture

I personally am a giant cramp waiting to happen. Leg turns the wrong way and I get the hamstring charleyhorse? I’ve told the story before. I’ve hit the floor in front of my inlaws. But I was pretty big and they knew what I was doing. Hit the floor in their fucking kitchen lol

wanted's picture

Drink water
Masteron isnt winstrol. Come on

DeeMan's picture

What dose did you run mast at?

DeeMan's picture

I've been drinking a gallon of spring water a day for over 15 years. Look if I decide to run you'll be the first one to know. And no winstrol is trash on joints.

DeeMan's picture

100%....you'll be looking like Dolly Parton lol

DeeMan's picture

I can imagine

23Sparta's picture

Good information bro, and yeah I wasn’t impressed at 25mg per day. All I got was high BP for my trouble. People say the sweet spot is 50mg per day but why should I need to run so much if it’s supposedly that powerful? I definitely never would risk/reward is way out of line imo. Just watching new vigorous video on it made me curious to try 50-75mg a week again in a stack but I really don’t know what purpose it would serve that test doesn’t. I’d rather add 175 npp and get those benifits

press1's picture

It always tanks my appetite and I often get stomach pain in the liver region from it, if you look at the compound profile for it with a few of the big Internationals who sell the 50mg/ml version its listed as Highly hepatoxic too.

Rosschestzip's picture

Can’t that be the cause for the appetite loss, because the toxicity levels ? If you can feel the pain in that area does that mean it’s like insanely toxic or are you just really in tune with your body?

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Drexyl's picture

If you’re having pain in your liver area, don’t ignore it. Pay attention to new esophageal reflux and sleep patterns. The time to really get concerned is dark stool or urine that looks like iced tea. But the aforementioned symptoms shouldn’t be ignored, catch the small issues early and they won’t become big ones.

press1's picture

Its actually light coloured stool that indicates a suffering liver bud, when it goes clay like coloured - because bilirubin becomes unable to pass on into the stool as it becomes blocked in the gallbladder in bile. Dark stool is normally the result of a stomach ulcer where the blood is going through the digestive tract from the stomach, I've had that from anadrol before.

Drexyl's picture

Thanks for adding my broski, but black tarry stool is indicative of cirrhosis. In a nutshell, anything other than tube shaped, brown, not too stinky, turds, is presentation of a problem. Buoyancy is also a concern. Jesus, I’m here discussing the buoyancy of turds, but, it all plays a factor. If it looks wrong, it probably is. And find the easiest solution. Occam’s razor. I like Hitchen’s razor the best, but they’re all good.

press1's picture

If you are at cirrhosis stage then its end game for you though bud, before then you would of had a lot of other symptoms like the light coloured stool and appetite loss, stomach pain that would of made you aware of the liver problem most likely.

Drexyl's picture

Again, not true. The liver is regenerative and with proper lifestyle changes, and in extreme cases partial transplant, normal life expectancy can be expected. I’m not saying every extreme case, but yes most. Specialized medicine has gotten very good. There’s a cure, not treatment, a cure for Hep-C now. Improvements are happening, just gotta keep your eyes open bro

press1's picture

The Liver can regenerate up to a point, at cirrhosis stage and beyond this is generally not possible. The damage has become irreversible. Who would want to go through having a liver transplant though to have a 'normal' life expectancy? You realise how big of an operation a liver transplant is? lol Having to take God knows how many drugs everyday to make sure your body doesn't reject it.

Drexyl's picture

Liver transplants can now be done laparoscopy. It’s practically non-invasive. If the section of healthy liver attaches and works cohesively, with interferon treatment and antifungals, people have a pretty good survivability rate.

Rosschestzip's picture

How the hell would you get a liver in there and then attach with a laser and camera, wouldn’t you still need to add the whole fucking liver??? Lol isn’t that what laparoscopic means, is like cameras and lasers and non invasive shit? I just don’t know how adding a 3 pound organ(or whatver size, I know it’s big) can be non invasive, not doubting your knowledge on it, just sounds like most invasive thing you can do

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Rosschestzip's picture

Ya I think light color is liver trouble and dark is like liver failure. I know dark urine is trouble too they say “if it looks like Pepsi then it’s hep c” lol

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23Sparta's picture

I’ve seen that Press, they do have it listed as hepatotoxic. Although, the one time I pulled bloods on it, it was not, but that’s not evidence to go by for sure

press1's picture

I've had this debate with quite a few members over the years as to whether it is or not, personally I think it is. I have never known a compound which is highly anabolic and androgenic that isn't hepatoxic - all of them are. Methyltren, Cheque Drops, Halotestin, Sdrol - MENT falls into that area of steroids for me even though its seen as safe by most people.

23Sparta's picture

It very well could be Press. None of the dosages used in human clinic trials approach any where near what is used by the fitness community.

press1's picture

I've always found the Blood Pressure hike to be the main problem with it after its built up over a few days for the Acetate version - I've had it where it just became uncontrollable even with BP meds so due to the intense headaches had to discontinue it.

23Sparta's picture

Bingo. I never took a BP med in my life until Ment. Still think 50-75mg per week may have it’s place in a stack, but I’m not in any hurry to try