posted Sun, 07/22/2012 - 05:41
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which would provide more actual muscle gain
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if a test subject was to take either 80mg tbol or 50mg dbol which would provide more actual muscle gain before you answer note these points
it doesnt matter about bloat on dbol cos that will dissapear once the dbol is not taken and ai's etc
and diet,training and pct would be the same
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Is there more to this? Even though tbol gives you comparatively less sides, your on it for longer. Your liver is under stress for longer? What do we think?
The idea of sides keeps me thinking prop....but everything has its place if done right. Lol
Prop wins for me every time but with regard to dbol vs tbol........and the sides vs length of time on an oral?
I'm starting cycle for ebc tomorrow with prop so i can finish with mast e and Winny. So I'm not worried about liver by doing double oral. One guy on here keeps advising double 17aa cycles. If you're getting blood work plus liv support......but not just blindly advise it.
You really need to realize their differences. Tbol needs 6 Weeks...its slower and drier. Dbol is rapid water gains. To answer you question correctly....post stats and goals.
stats are on my page dont be lazy and look lol oj im talking in general as in the end result after all water has gone from dbol etc ie is it worth having the bloat if it builds more muscle or will it be easier just to use tbol to get same amount of muscle
Noone here has that all day to help everyone patience. Stats get posted because folks need to post them. Help us to help you. You ask for knowledge...so I'm supposed to scope your site....and do the research...and advise for free.
Think another person would be better suited for this post
you do realise i was only joking hence the oj
TxBigBoyYour good bro Fast is just a stats nazi and like everyone to post them if your question even closely pertains to cycle advice, we love him for it though.
As far as your original question goes its kinda hard to judge because they do somewhat different things. IMO your going to get about the same gains in the end after the water is gone. Each compound has its own benefit to cost ratio, with Dbol you get the gains fast but with more water and sides. Tbol you get them slower and with less sides. I think it all comes down to personal preference really.
lol bro i pmed him and called him an age nazi last week. he could be the juice nazi. "no test for you"
TxBigBoylmao
I spat coffee then goose stepped to answer. Lmao!
cheers im torn between the 2 as theres not that many informitive tbol reviews out there where as ive done dbol so i know what im gonna get
i know people ask for stats etc and he didnt get my joke but im just putting the final touches to my cycle log and im still deciding whether to use tbol or dbol before i stick it up and i want to keep it a cycle log and not a tbol/dbol debate etc
Im back....we're all here to learn and it simply saves time. Tbol vs dbol question definitly pertains to the cycle and goals...hence why us old grumps need that posted. If my goal is lean and solid i surely wouldn't go dbol. Tbol is slower acting but proportedly just as harsh due to 17aa. The goals and cycle matter as well because if you want a 12 week cycle where bulk in beginning and look hard and cut at the end....whats your finisher? If you finish as i do with Winny...you don't want two liver busters in same cycle. If you finish with tren...again you're gonna bust your liver with tbol or dbol as a kicker. I'm firing up my cycle for the ebc tomorrow with prop. Get that fast instant testosterone blast yet prop will be drier. It's fast. It's now without the water and won't screw my liver fir my finisher. winny frees up testosterone sbhg route. And it dries and cuts. So the most important thing is matching your compounds to goals and matching compounds that MULTIPLY effectiveness. Then you can run a lighter easier cycle yet still put on the dry/solid 15lbs and losr none of it....as long as pct/diet is correct. Comparisons are tricky because off the top of my head i can automatically see some 25 different combinations.
I missed the joke so my apologies. But a stat Nazi is where i stand for everything in this above statement.
"help me! To help YOU!" Movie quotes....lmao!
TxBigBoynicely put brother
You're very correct... I do get snappy. Think the overload of trying to work with the too young to start group has me edgy. Theyre young n stubborn.....lot like me. Lol!
TxBigBoyIts all good bro
no worries i hit you up a fr and i will pm you my proposed cycle etc
Sounds good. I definitly wanna see ya get your goals. If a question is so open ended then too many answers can muddy the water. Meaning...just too many possible cycles that work well.