posted Thu, 10/31/2013 - 00:06
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Using short and long esters togethre? whats the point
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I see some people use both ace and tren E together, why is that?
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I see some people use both ace and tren E together, why is that?
LiquidzI was running 2 long esters shot e3d (test and deca)
I was getting bigger but wasn't getting stronger, weird I know
added in prop and npp eod and my strength has shot up substantially in just about all lifts
I might run shorts and longs together for awhile to see if it continues.
since im doing eod injects it actually turned into ED injects which I like a lot more.
I feel less dizzy, I feel better in the gym, I can honestly say it must have something to do with much more stable blood levels.
here is what im doing.
1.5mL ED
mixing long esters with short esters and Ive seen no pip......until I did virgin pec shots but I like them so much =)
1mL Prop/.5 mL Deca EOD
1mL Test E/.5mL NPP EoD
test is 1225mL per week
Nandrolone is exactly half at 612.5mL per week
zero complaints
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Short esthers "kick" faster to ramp you up. Long esthers are self explanatory. Bang some TNE for 3 weeks and you will see what I mean hehe.
twokansamI am asking why people are using both esters through the entire cycle , to clera confusion.
Bro, revenge85 described how short and long esters of the same drug are used in a cycle. Doesn't have to be Tren in particular. Please pay absolutely no attention if someone tells you any drug has "wildly different" characteristics depending on the ester. It's all in their mind. I can't think of any valid reason why someone would do what you are describing.
I do it all the time. What do you mean what's the point? Are you serious? I use long estered test and short ester switches every 4 weeks in a typical cycle. Less pinning. When need be ill add prop
I am picturing pinning both esters every week during the course of the cycle. I don't think that's what you meant is it? (Nitti - I realize your response wasn't directed at me. Cheers, bro.
not giving tren advice, the reason short esters are used together is to either kick start a cycle for immediate results, or at the end of a cycle to taper off and be able to get the long ester out of your system and go to pct sooner, also to lean up.
twokansamno, these people are using it the whoel cycle thru, IE phil122kg
Just taking a guess here, but could be that someone on phil's level is likely running higher doses of tren then most of us would ever fathom. Long esters tend to be higher mg/ml than shorts so this would allow more mg/wk with less oil volume.
As far as mixing esters, Ive never done that with tren although I have run both enth and ace and IME they were similar but had their differences in results and sides.
Im really interested to hear what phil or any other pro has to say on this topic.
twokansamtrue can't take 8 cc of TREN E each shot haha.
should have stated that and been more descriptive, we aren't mind readers sorry.