Updated Again 3/16: UPDATED 3/12: Quick help needed about Dbol
I am helping a buddy on his second cycle. He is doing 12 weeks of test e plus 4 weeks of a dbol kicker. First pin was last week on Monday. He is pinning on Mon/Thurs. he has a total of 3 pins thus far. He also is on 40mg of Ba***n dbol per day (2 10mg pills in am and 2 before workout). He just started that on Monday of this week (2 days worth taken thus far).
He texted me this morning says he has a strange pressure under his ribs on the left side of his chest about 4 inches below his nipple. Said pressure was so unpleasant he did not sleep last night and called into work today. Anyone have any idea if thats from the dbol or something else? He is not on anything else, and I have little experience with dbol. Stuff bloats me too much to use.
Any help would be appreciated. he is freaked out so any and all help is appreciated
UPDATE:
FRIEND FINALLY WENT TO MY DOCTOR TODAY. DOCTOR IS TRUSTWORTHY AND HAS BEEN ADVISING ME ON GEAR FOR A FEW YEARS SO HE IS TRUSTED. THEY RAN AN EKG AND SOMETHING ELSE THEN GAVE HIM SOME PILLS FOR THE PAIN. DOCTOR ADVISED NO HEAVY LIFTING AND TO JUMP OFF OF THE TEST CYP FOR NOW UNTIL HE IS RECOVERED. FRIEND WAS ONLY 2 PINS IN SO I DO NOT THINK PCT IS NECESSARY BUT DOES ANYONE HAVE INPUT ON THAT. FRIEND IS 27 AND BASELINE TEST WAS 632
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tell him to drink more water. also use fish oil supplement, see if that helps. maybe keep dbol at 25-30mg if notice side effects. Also is AI under control?
hes been pounding water like theres no tomorrow. he does feel better but he dropped dbol all together and is just going to duplicate his first cycle of 500mg test c per week. He was only taking 40mg of Dbol for 2 days before issue began. Then tried 20mg for a day. I tried to convince him to work through it once he felt better after adding more water but he wanted to stop. Said the gasping for air while sleeping freaked him out too much.
He has not started AI. Its only week 2 of test cyp. He has pharma adex but i told him to hold off until week 3-4 again until test kicks in.
I gained 10 pounds in the first week of take bp dbol test e and deca. It made my knees and ankles swell a little. I started at 10mg 3xday for a couple weeks and ended up doing 40mg 2xday. I had some cramps at first but after the third week I dropped 4 pounds and no sides. I ran it as a starter for 6 weeks. Im getting big now that all the other stuff is kicking in. Huge shoulders and chest
Get some pics up man, let's see the results
So worked out with buddy last night. Said pain in ribs went away after downing water all day. Said stomach was upset but he took a "vitamin pack" on an empty stomach so I attributed it to that. Work out went good, he said he noticed a tight pump and increased endurance. Everything seemed good.
So so far his dbol intake has been:
Monday: 2 10mg in AM w food, 2 10mg pre-workout with peanut butter
Tuesday: forgot 1st dose so took 40mg pre work out with food
Wednesday: (chest pain overnight and lack of sleep), decreased to 10mg in AM and 10mg pre work out
He texts me this morning said he is getting off dbol because he is terrified of it. Said he had insomnia last night and he kept waking up gasping for air like he has sleep apnea or something similar. Said he also have terrifying dreams. Told me if problems persist even after dbol clears system then he is droppping test.
I know this is not a test issue, never had these sides from that. Sounds like tren sides I used to get but I know he isnt on tren. He has 3 shots of 250mg test cyp thus far so it cant be the test. Vitals are normal, no increase in bp or heart rate yet. Food intake has been consistent, water was increased and solved chest pain issue. Idk 3 days in on dbol just doesnt seem to represent these issues. He didnt have them on the test only cycle last year so I have no idea....
Anyone have further input? I know we all respond differently but now the guy is going to be terrified of all new compounds.
Could he have gotten tren mislabeled as test?
anything is possible... his cardio hasnt taken a hit though and his sex drive is unaffected. no night sweats or anything.... the ugl i got this from was an all test order and I used 3 other bottles so for one of the 12 bottles to be tren would be weird
It's possible that his dbol is not dbol either. Just a thought.
what would give those sides? not to mention they came sealed in their blister pack, with the description on the back of it. i know i cant say the same but the top source overall carries the brand. its entirely possible but I have limited to zero experience with dbol... like took it for 2 weeks and fucking hated it
Could be sdrol or something similar. It's hard to say. He also just could be reacting poorly to dbol. Everyone is different. Dropping it regardless is the best option.
agree, he is off as of today. The brand he got doesn't make sdrol. The thought had crossed my mind though. Yeah I know everyone is different but his sides are so weird compared to all the first hand reports, research and info I could find. Oh well guess I will have some more dbol that i dont use -_-
that is why we always preach here one new compound at a time so we don't have to wonder which compound is causing problems. Let him experience test only and then introduce something new into future cycles if need be
this was his second cycle. first was test only. thats why I had him add in dbol. dont worry mak, wouldnt have someone do what I wouldnt myself do
The best process of elimination would be to stop the dbol and see what happens, dbol would normally give a bad stomach, full stomach feeling, hinder being able to eat, high blood pressure.. Not normally related sides that your friend has but that's not to say it isn't the dbol causing the issues..keep us updated pls
Impossible to say what this is from your description. Could just be that he strained a connecting muscle and/or tendon while lifting. This is common for those emboldened with just starting out with AAS. Feeling strong and push just a little too hard.
Just see how it progresses and if it gets worse, he needs to see a doctor. Otherwise we're all just guessing.
i gotcha, trying to see if anyone has similar issue. He did back/tris yesterday and did legs on monday so not sure how he could have pulled something in his chest but its possible. He said he feels a little better, has consumed a half gallon since i posted this on his behalf
I just don't see it being directly related to his aas consumption, but again, we don't know. I've strained my core by doing squats (just straining too hard, etc.). You can just turn wrong, under pressure and strain your core. Just throwing out possibilities. Glad to hear he's feeling better. Very possible it's just a coincidence that he started his cycle and got hurt. That being said, it's always better to be safe than sorry.
absolutely, appreciate the input and help
AnonSo its just pressure? Is it painful? Is it constant? Does he have digestion issues, acid reflux?
no other sides present... just discomfort. not painful but enough to inhibit some movement. Did some reading around, sounds like a muscle cramp in rib cage from a lack of water. he has been guzzling water all day and says he feels a little better.
swoller87Ok, I know this is old but believe it or not that pressure is heartburn or acid reflux related. Nexium will clear that up.
swoller87This could also be a gallbladder issue
AnonCoconut water and pedialyte helps a lot with dehydration.
Tell him to try drinking more water, is he taking liver support? Dbol fucks my stomach up, like no joke heartburn. Tell him to start taking some tums, the Tums and upping my water intake helped me alot. Throw some milk thistle in there for liver support while on the dbol. My 2c , GL brother
yea he is on liv52 and milk thistle. only been on 2 days so i am suprised he is having any issue. although we have been lifting like machines so a half gallon of water is shit. I drink 2 a day and still get cramps so id imagine thats his issue. No other dbol related sides to speak of and his eating is normal
yeah i am having him dose down to 20mg per day rather than 40 and up water to 2gallons. said bp was normal and pulse was at 68 so I haev zero clue what the hell is going on lol. he said this was first time he has felt this before so I am under the assumption it is the dbol
I'm running the bp dbol at 50 mg preworkout out. I had some weird pains when I started. Thought it was the dbol. So stop still had the pains hard to explain almost like gas pains. Started after about 10 days in. Ended up I are some bad chicken. Started back on the dbol after pains subsided. Only issue I have know is the pumps are about ripping through my shirt. The bp dbol is great. But I could see that it could hurt sensitive stomach. Totally ask doctor but check out diet that's what I did started to rule out everything
I had same issues horrible gas pains had me curled over hard to breath and sweating. Turned out needing my golblatter removed loll
Oh wow... Hope that went well. I had started the dosing at 25mg am and pm.... Had the issues took couple days off. Started bsck only taking it about 1 hr. Pwo at 50mg and the pump is freaking crazy
Good advice man, exactly what I was going to say haha. You beat me to it.
he also told me water intake has been less than half gallon this week. I think that may be part of the issue but I am having him go to the walgreens to get the bp and pulse checked.
he isnt having any other sides related to dbol yet though (headache, loss of appetite or anything else). I am almost certain it is water related but I have advised he see doc if discomfort persists
You'll know more when he checks his BP. It's a quick and dirty way to start ruling things out. Keep us posted man!