posted Mon, 06/05/2017 - 08:48
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Tren-A for more than 8 weeks?
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It's my first time using Tren (started 50mg E2D to see if I'm getting and sides, after 3 weeks 70mg E2D). So far so good. I also take Test-C 500mg/wk. I was planning to run tren-a for 8weeks but some people told me it's ok to do 10 weeks especially that I'm planning to run Test for about 16 weeks this time.
Any thoughts?
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Firstly, it's an acetate which under a standard and recommended protocol should be pinned daily! It's faster acting than a propionate ester which means it's going to hit you pretty darn hard and quick!
Secondly, I do t see what all this preoccupation with Tren is! Anyone could make great gains utilizing a simple test protocol for many cycles if one is meticulous in their diet, training and rest!
Sluts
LOL!
Cutie!
Thoughts are, your cycle is shit
Bet your PCT was shit too
you didnt really answer people's questions below.
Exactly what is your PCT plan?
Based on my research and recommendations first tren cycle should be 8weeks 50mg/e2d
you are a liar. You didnt do any research if thats what you have come up with.
Not recommending this to anyone. ..but, I will say trenbolone really starts to shine after having it in the blood for 8-9 weeks. Usually the mind starts to go a bit sideways at that time too but the real mutation tren creates is past week 8. But those who know what they are doing don't need to post asking these questions :/
I would agree with you that the tren sweet spot is after eight weeks but you better be a cruiser and blaster cause the shutdown will kill.Believe me I'm going through it now.Pharma pct and two months in and still not right.If I ever get corrected, I doubt that tren will be in my box of tricks ever again.
Rustyhooker+2 bro. I've been there. And if estro or prolactin is high it takes longer...if it resets.
why make the comment if you don't recommend to anyone?
Dipshit kids read something like that and think "shit! Imma run 8+ weeks so I don't miss out on my gainz!"
Cus it's the truth. I wouldn't recommend using any AAS to anyone. That's their decision bottom line, and they need to make it for themselves. If they need a recommendation then they aren't ready cus they can't make it for themselves. But I will speak the truth. That's why we're here to share knowledge.
RustyhookerTrt right?
Perhaps you could throw in a disclosure and let them know that you are under 30 years old and that your balls will never work naturally again because of your shitty cycling decisions and procedures.
It might help them decide on a little caution before they read your opinion.
You see....you aren't sharing knowlege, you are sharing a shitty cycling opinion that has rendered your testicles useless for the rest of your life.
RustyhookerGreat way into permanent trt with no plastic trophies or paycheck. The pct is friggin gawd awful past 8 and thats IF you keep those gains after the shutdown
+2
For me tren starts to shine pretty damn quick. The only thing that shines at 8+ weeks is a guy's insanity.
Personally, I think Kaps comment was retarded and would have negged him if I was feeling douchy.
Sure, I notice changes from tren acetate within 48hrs after my first dose. The changes are quick and drastic. I was just stating from my experience the mutation doesn't even compare to the changes made if it's kept in the blood longer. Tren is one of the only things I've experimented with that doesn't have diminishing returns. And sharing that fact is part of what we all contribute knowledge wise. Whether someone decides to take what they read and implement it is on them. I've read over at the thunderdome about changes made on running tren a at 300mg/day. But am I going off and trying it to "maximize gains"? No lol cus I think for myself. If in fact I did do that and fucked myself up, that's on me. Not on the guy simply sharing experience
ShreddedfreddyI wonder who ever did that if they come home and put there straight jacket on immediately before and after the gym.
Haha that just really made me laugh
RustyhookerBy week 8 I'm more than enough angry midget to handle. My pct after 8 weeks was the worst experience too.
HCG helps reduce the duration/depth of misery after a long tren run, rough as hell though
RustyhookerYessir! Thats when i do use hcg in the blast method Llewellyn laid out. Pharmacy everything on pct or as good as proven ugl.
Running 40mg/day of Tren A & even thought sits early to tell, I can feel huge pumps at the gym & muscles look fuller. Same diet as before.
RustyhookerI think you're goofin up. But its 3 weeks too late....
Honestly, I don't know how much of a difference a couple more weeks of Tren will do especially if you're going to run Test E for 16 weeks. I wouldn't know though because I'm a Test freak and have never ran Tren like that but to me you can still get a lot out of the last 8 weeks of Test! To me Test is king but that's my opinion.
You won't experience any sides @50mg E2D, to get an idea of the sides ideally you need to run it everyday so you don't suffer the sides of fluctuating blood levels especially on the non-injection day. If you are a new user of the drug try 50mg everyday even though this is still a very low dose (350mg a week) and it will give you a good idea of how it feels. It affects everyone differently - some hate it and others love it.
You won't experience any sides @50mg E2D
please dont ever give anyone advice like that ever again, anywhere, any time...... ever
Twat
does it even make sense? i don't want to pin myself ed if it's not necessary. and like i said i increased the dosage to 70mg E2D and it's still good
I mean don't get me wrong - i experienced some sides like aggression, more sweating and i think increased blood pressure but nothing extreme.
I would say it's necessary. Ace half life is shorter than prop.
so you're saying that it's better to run a cycle with tren-a ED than E2D?
Rosser01Tren ed is deff the way to go
Yes
i would do no more than 8 weeks bro
tren ace is a lot more powerful then tren e in my opinion. i would consider running tren e longer BUT NOT tren a. ive seen friends with kidney issues
take auxiliaries to offset the pressure it puts on your kidneys. i take cranberry concentrate pills as it helps keep your urinary tract cleaner and helps kidney function
i recently found this stuff called n2 guard. and i swear its working like charm
it covers all your basics. liver skin prostate kidneys. when juicing
just foot for thought. good luck. and dont go too hard on tren a
ive see guys get hurt
peace
Thanks bro. I drink 1-2 gallons of water + all the vitamins and supplements necessary. I'll look up cranberry pills and n2guard.
i read this online for kidney protection
Vitamin
Vitamin B
Lemon Juice
Apple Cider Vinegar
L-Carnitine
Pyridoxamine or Pyridoxal-5-Phosphate
Coenzyme Q10
Resveratrol
Lipoic Acid
u dont have to take them all but these all combat kidney disease and over all health
The best natural supplement you can take daily for your kidneys is dihydrogen monoxide. It's quite readily available.
lol i looked it up. didnt realize you were being sarcastic
List cycle history?
Goals?
Bf%?
And if you have to ask, you probably don't have enough experience to even run tren.
Just being honest
What does your pct look like?
Prolactin protection?
test solo, dbol test win, test solo, now test tren
lean mass
11.5%
I didn't HAVE TO ask I asked because I know there is shitload of people here who know more than I do. Based on my research and recommendations first tren cycle should be 8weeks 50mg/e2d.
HAVE TO" super aggressive all caps... scared the shit out of me lmfao
dbol test win
why would you run that?
Yes, 8 weeks no more but I still think you could do without
What are you using for prolactin if issues occur?
Pct plan?
haha why everyone thinks that writing one or two words in caps make it sound aggresive
I could do without? What do you mean?
Friend has Premi just in case but so far no issues with prolactin.
For PCT (because of the low doses) I'll go with Clomid and Nolva.
Low dose or not, tren will shut you down hard. Nothing less than a 6 wk pct.
planning to run it 6-8 weeks. hey can you elaborate a little on why do you think it's better to do tren ED then EOD?
I've heard that ED injects are much more stable on blood levels, leading to better gains and less side effects but I'd like to hear more.
Answered your own question. Best way to maximize gains is by keeping your body in the optimum anabolic state at all times by timing your injections around the half lifes. Will also help mitigate sides by keeping levels more stable.
All of what he said and there is a new website called google.com, if you type in your question, you'll probably get 3000 pages of answers
exactly, you'll get 3k pages of answers and each one will be different lol
Gotta take an average haha
haha