-1 TNE100 MG -TEST PROP 100 MG - NPP DECA 100MG D-BOL
ADVISE NEEDED . MY OLD TRADITIONAL BULKING CYCLE WAS BASICLY THIS :
1 CC TEST CYP OR SUSTANON 250 MG
1 CC DECA DURABOLIN 250 MG
50 MG ANADROL EVERY DAY FOR FIRST THREE WEEKS
PINNING EVERY FIVE DAYS
IVE DONE THIS CYCLE A FEW TIMES WITH DECENT BULKING RESULTS . SO NOW AFTER A FEW CYCLES UNDER MY BELT I'VE BEEN OFF CYCLE FOR EXACTLY THREE MONTHS AFTER A 6 MONTH CYCLE . I WAS TAKING CLOMID PCT FROM LABS . PRODUCT WAS OLD MANUFACTURED I THINK THREE TO FOUR YEARS OLD I CLEARLY REMEMBER THE EXPIRATION WAS JULY 2016 . GOT BLOODS LAB WORK DONE JUST BEFORE I STOPPED OR ENDED MY CYCLE AND TEST LEVELS WERE AT 3600 . I RECENTLY GOT BLOODS DONE AFTER MY PCT OF ABOUT 12 WEEKS . I LOST ALOT OF MASS NOT SURE IF THE CLOMID WAS WORKING . I CANT QUITE FIGURE OUT HOW TO COME OFF CYCLE EFFECTIVELY . I WAS TRAINING MY ASS OFF OFF CYCLE AND THE WORKOUTS WERE DIFFICULT AS WELL AS THE SORENESS WOULD NEVER GO AWAY AND TRAINING WAS TOUGH EXHAUSTING . COULD NOT DEAL WITH IT ANYMORE . I NEEDED A SHOT A PIN TO GET BACK ON IT !!! LONG STORY SHORT , BEFORE I GOT BACK ON CYCLE I DID MY BLOOD WORK LABS AGAIN TO SEE HOW THE PCT WENT. I DIDN'T THINK IT WENT WELL CAUSE I FELT LIKE SHIT . WELL THE LAB RESULTS REVEALED A TEST LEVEL OF 67 ! YES 67!! HE LAUGHED AND SAID WOW IN MY ENTIRE PRACTICE YOUR THE FIRST PERSON IVE EVER SEEN WITH TEST LEVELS THAT LOW . ON THE OTHER HAND YOUR ALSO THE SAME PERSON THAT IVE SEEN IN MY ENTIRE LIFE WITH TEST LEVELS THAT HIGH AS I WAS AT 3600. SO HE SAYS LETS PUT YOU BACK ON OR ON HORMONE REPLACEMENT THERAPY ...LOL .. SO HE GAVE ME A SCRIPT FOR 50 MG TEST CYP EVERYDAY TO START WITH . SO I PUT MY OWN SCRIPT IN (JUMPING BACK ON)
NEW CYCLE ALL LABS (LOVE THIS LAB DESPITE MY CURRENT SUPPLIER **** BIG ORDER BEING HELD UP OR WHO KNOWS WHAT I KNOW **** WILL COME THROUGH AT SOME POINT IN 2016 I HOPE)
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1CC ANADROL / D-BOL
1CC NPP DECA
1CC TNE ( DONE SOME RESEARCH AND I LIKE WHAT IVE READ !!!)
1CC TEST PROP
IN PINNING EVERY OTHER DAY 1 HR BEFORE I TRAIN IN THE PM .
SO FAR I FEEL A HUGE FAST GAIN AND SORENESS IS ALMOST NON EXISTENT . + OVERALL FEELING AND AMBITION IN LIFE IN GENERAL SEEMS GOOD .
NOT SURE IF MY PCT WAS DONE WRONG OR IF I HAD BUNK CLOMID . ANYHOW ANY ADVISE ON HOW TO EFFECTIVELY COME OFF BETWEEN CYCLES ? AND ALSO ON THE NEW CYCLE STACK IM USING IS THIS SMART ? ANY SUGGESTIONS . IM ABOUT 9 DAYS INTO THE CYCLE INJECTING EVERY OTHER DAY .
ALSO I WANT TO BE MORE INVOLVED IN EROIDS . IVE FOLLOWED THE SITE SOMEWHAT BUT NEVER CREATED AN ACCOUNT . NOW I HAVE AN ACCOUNT AND WANT TO EFFECTIVELY USE IT . ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
OH ALSo HOW DO I GET MY POINTS /KARMA UP ?
THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP ,LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING PART OF THE EROIDS COMMUNITY
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I will rewrite my post a little later today( more clear ) after I get out of work so it can make more sense . Again sorry for he confusion. And thanks for being receptive I'm hoping to gain some knowledge here as to use in the future . I'll post soon
Thank you
GnarkillBro source name is still up might want to edit again before you lose more karma who knows maybe someone will give you 1 back once you do
Sorry guys geez why is everyone so upset . I'm not here to feed anyone bs . Just need advise as for the caps I don't mean to yell . I'm just not good at typing bro . I didn't make to far in school . I'm now typing on my I phone so it does on its own the grammar . Anyway I didn't mean to offend anyone .
And doc perscribed my test cyp 50 mg weekly sorry not every day . My mistake . I'm just looking for advise man gee everyone starts bashing me right away . I don't need to lie I can upload my lab tests and the script for all to see which is not the point . I'm just asking or help with post cycle therapy . I'm not an expert . I'm a humble guy .
Basically in asking if my cycle correctly is a good one for bulking and most importantly how to come off correctly .i keep loosing most of my gains I'm sorry I won't mention brand names . I did read the rules but I made some mistakes and I will try to correct them . Are you guys not here to help ? I'm just seeking held and advise from you experienced people on here . Again I'm sorry if I offended anyone . I'm just a guy tying to to understand and learn
Come on guys I'm just a guy who likes the be fan of muscle building with the gear. I'm asking for friends and help . No need to make me feel like I'm I lier . If you guys can help cool . I'm not perfect guys . Again sorry . I will edit my posts . Also if anyone can see past my ignorance and give some honest advise it would be appreciated
Thank you and God bless you all this morning
Big d
Hey bro,
Could you just take your time and rewrite your initial post so it makes sense and it's understandable. If you need to get some help in writing it, please get that help. Just make it clean and crisp and logical. Start over, please.
GH
I'm confused here also. Trying to do a PCT, but then get put on TRT by a doc, then runs a cycle right away, then still wondering about PCT. Nothing is making sense here.
-2 Read the rules. Source and brand names everywhere. Lies / bullshit "(doc laughed", "put me on 50mg if test cyp every day"). I guarantee none of that happened.
Talking out of your sphincter. Where do we find these people???
Apologies bro . I edited my post . I'm not making shit up just asking for advise . Yes doc put me on 50 mg test weekly not every day . Im just trying to learn
I'm giving you back your Karma.
If your doc just put you on TRT, why on earth are you running a cycle now. It could take up to 6 or more months to get your correct TRT dose. All you are doing is screwing everything up.
rocketballzI'm glad you have a doctor that laughs at your medical problem... which I don't belive for one second ever happened. I would have knocked him out right there if he laughed at me for having a low test level. Bro there's no mentioning sources in the forums. Only one source on here sells Gen***Za. While ur at it..get the fuck out of here with this all caps, lying bullshit. Lies lies and more lies. Get a life or a hobby dude
Have a blessed day bro , didn't mean to upset you at all . Just a fellow juice user looking for tips . I thought that was what we were here for was to help . I understand you get many peeps or bullshiters all the time . But my story is true . Basically I've probably damaged my system for use and no proper knowledge of cycling . Let labs things were normal except the levels of my test were low . So he did put me on 50 mg every week .
Bro, just stop with all the chemicals. Stop dead. No cycles, no self administered hormone replacement therapy no do it yourself post cycle protocols, nothing.
You need to work with a medical doctor, an endocrinologist.
I'm not happy with you bro at the moment. Why? Because I can't trust anything you have said. Why? Because no medical doctor is going to prescribe 50 mg a day of testosterone to you. That's 350 mg of Test a week. Not going to happen.
You are playing around with hormones like over the counter meds at the corner drugstore. I used to think that the internet availability of gear was a step forward. But, too many guys are showing up on this website with rants like yours.
Whatever you're doing, IMHO, it is beyond the scope of this forum to solicit recommendations to do anything at this point. You need professional help, not guidance from an AAS website.
In closing, I will add this. I've been here for a while now. I have never taken the position I am taking with you with anybody ever before. I read your rant 3 times before I could even get the gist of it. I gather you want us to fix your problem. Not where your at bro. Not even a chance.
You mad bro, what's up with all the caps. Hopping back on cycle right now is a sure fire way to fry your HPTA for good. You need to do your PCT with Pharma grade clomid and nolva not any research chems if that is what you used before.
PCT:
clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
You may want to blast some HCG with that also
The doc said I may need to stay on hrt forever that I may have allready messed it upend test levels may never return to normal. I started using gear about 10 years ago . He prescribed me 50 mg injection every week to start with .
EDITED , SORRY ABOUT THAT . IM JUMPING BACK ON , AS I STATED I WAS OFF FOR THREE WEEKS , LIVER , KIDNEYS , BLOOD PRESSURE AND EVERYTHING ELSE HAS RETURNED BACK TO NORMAL WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MY TEST BEING AT 36 ! SO STARTING ON A CYCLE IS OK NOW RIGHT ?PLANNING ON SIXTEEN WEEK CYCLE . A MONTH AND A HALF OR SO IM SWITH TO CUTTING . WITH LIKE A TRI BLEND OF MAST TEST PROP AND TREN A . AND HOW DO YOU SUGGEST I COME OFF WHAT DOSAGES AND OF WHAT ? YOUR ADVISE IS MUCH APPRECIATED
MY ADVICE IS DROP EVERYTHING BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE FUCK YOU ARE DOING PERIOD. YOU HAVE BEEN ON A CONSTANT CYCLE FOR GOD KNOWS HOW LONG AND THEN CANT UNDERSTAND WHY YOU LOSE EVERYTHING YOUVE GAINED WITHIN 3 WEEKS OF ACTUALLY STOPPING. WANT TO KNOW WHY? BECAUSE YOUR BODY IS NOTHING BUT CHEMICAL MUSCLES FILLED WITH PURE WATER. YOU ARE A PRIME EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE CALL A STEROID JUNKIE BECAUSE THE ONLY SOLUTION YOU KNOW FOR BAD TRAINING AND NUTRITION IS MORE DRUGS. EXIT STAGE RIGHT PLEASE AND THATS MY ADVICE.
PS All caps fkn suck ass.
I came here for help , all I got was the exact opposite . Everybody bashing me . I came here for help but obviously everyone wants to just tell me I'm screwed .. I guess that's about it
God bless have a great day
That's just about enough bro. Silence!
Edit the sources out of your post.
Honestly, abandon this cycle, and run a proper PCT with nolva and clomid, pharm grade. You're not cycling correctly, and you risk doing more damage if you continue.
Thank you advise aporeciated
So I've read through this entire thread and all your replies.
If your endo put you on TRT, you need to work with your endo. Do not run this cycle, you need to dial in your TRT dosage which will take time, up to a year depending on the endo. It sucks, but your health and well-being are worth more than a years worth of gains.
Stick with the TRT dosage for now, and work on your diet. If you're losing your mass it's because your nutrition is off, not entirely because of a lack of gear (but with your T levels that low it does play a part).
Once you get that TRT dosage dialed in we can talk cycles, but until then just eat, train, and rest and be patient. It's nothing but a small bump to your long term goals.
Probably the best way to go about things. I would also ask the doc about rebooting your HPTA since you didn't do it correctly the first time. Give that a shot first with your doc and you may not need TRT for the rest of your life (which is going to suck).