posted Fri, 01/12/2018 - 11:46
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Testosterone only cycle
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Hello ladies and gents, im new to the forum, having trouble finding like minded individuals here I have been working out for a long time, since 16... i am now 33 , i have done two other cycles in my lifetime. I have only experimented with test. That is all I am interested in taking. My question is ,what form of test would be best for this application. I had usually gone to the cyp variety. Any help would be appreciated. Any peeps on the forum?
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Depends on what you are looking for out of your cycle and what your current goals are. Testosterone does not just come in a universal vial named "Testosterone - one vial fits all". Different testosterone compounds will work differently, have different esters, etc.
More importantly if your diet, training, and sleep regimen are not on point, than it does not matter what you take as in my opinion you are wasting your money. I would take some more time to think about what you are really wanting to accomplish. Then put a realistic vision in place and start there.
What is your bf right now bro?
My first cycle was Test E and i gained a total of 15 lbs (post cycle). I only pinned 250mg 2x/week and got excellent results. Strength shot up and so did size. However I did put on a lot of weight from bloat even with E controlled.
Just make sure your diet and workouts are in check and youll be all good.
If you are OK with pins
TP eod or ed is the way to go
Maybe with some proviron...
If you don't like pins. Test E or Test C.. again with proviron..
I believe that more than 500 mg per week is pointless..
I like test at 500mg per week, I find that anymore after that I get to a point of diminishing returns. Just on trt alone I made great gains at 100mg per week.
As said below. My first cycle was test enanthate 500mgs/wk. I made excellent gains, but i did NOT understand how to use ai or serms at the time. I ran it 12 weeks and gained 33lbs (NOT SOLID MUSCLE) but i was super bloated and uneducated.
So, lets say you are in peak physical condition to start cycling again, have a lower bf, diet on point, and have exhausted all other means id suggest:
Test enanthate/cypionate @ 300-500mgs per wk.
Have aromasin or arimidex on hand in case ALWAYS.
I use hcg 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off to keep atrophy at bay but this will shoot your e2 and test level very high inside the half life of hcg.
As for 8 wk PCT: (this is best only if you have bloodwork)
(Weeks 1-4)
Aromasin 12.5mgs ed/eod
Tamoxifen 40mg/ed
Clomid 50mgs/
gw501516 20mgs ed - i use this only for the fat burning and cortisol control
(Week 4-8)
Aromasin 6.25mgs/ed
tamoxifen 20mgs/ed
clomid 50mgs/ed
Gw 501516 20mgs/ed
Again bloods need to be taken pre, mid, and post cycle so you can fully move your ancillary dosing around for pct. I prefer aromasin during and post cycle as its a suicidal aromatase inhibitor, whereas arimidex can have rebounding effects which is NOT good in pct. Theres really so much info its hard to squeeze into this one post, but if you need anything pm me.
How did you like the GW
basskiller89Looks good brother
Thanks bro, i just wanna make sure people do things the right way. Pct is the most important part of any cycle imo. Without it the quality of life and gains falls to the wayside. Im sure he will do great with it!
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I wouldn't put your location is edit that out but for the test if your bf isn't to high a long ester is best for someone newish like enanthate or cypionate 15 week wouldn't go any higher then 500mg and of course ai and pct on hand