posted Wed, 03/27/2013 - 08:53
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Steroids dose dependent?
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Would like to hear a few opinions? Do you side with the science based fact that the more steroids you take the bigger you get? Meaning injecting more Mg per week and using more than one compound. Or do you believe more isn't better and that there is only so much testosterone that the body can utilize before the excess converts to estrogen? Lets put aside the diet and sleep and daily calories intake. Though they do play an important role but it's safe to say steroids make a huge difference.
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Not at all. There are diminishing returns and also the biggest variable for muscle gains are the limited resources. You can only consume and utilise so many nutrients and stimulate so much hypertrophy. Furthermore depending on binding affinity and location you only have a finite amount of androgen receptors. All of these are far greater limiting factors than how much gear you run. The exception to this rule is DHT derivatives.
some interesting points,
thing is we all respond differently to these compounds so where 500mgs of test would be enough for me to grow, it wouldnt be for someone else for instance, my pal who is a power lifter is 336lbs but cannot handle tren at more than 200mgs a week due to the sides, so refuses to to it where as im good on 600mg plus test with hardly any sides at all, our bodies all respond differently to things.
so how about age? as in the older you get the more you would need.
so youngers guys wouldnt need as much to grow as older guys would. we all respond differently to these compounds,.
RustyhookerIve grown great on low doses when i started and slowly built up. One aspirin helps a headache.....someday it'll be two...then three. Thats how drugs work.
The body can only put on so much muscle at a given time frame. It does not mean if someones first cycle is 3 different compounds at high doses that they will gain that much if they did just 1 at a reasonable dose. As far as the body getting dose dependent, yes, it does eventually but if you toggle between different products/esters, etc you can prolong this. similar to having the same workout routine day in and day out for each body part. you need to switch it up and keep the body guessing. a big factor is that people want fast results so they increase their dose faster than they should and then begin the "need more" pattern. ive known guys who have used very moderate test doses for quite a few cycles just because they said they were still gaining from it so why add more when its not necessary yet?
In my experience I started off with a mere 500mg a week of test alone and now after about 10 years of use it takes upwards of 1200-1500 mg of test in combonation with other compounds to see results like I once got on a much lower dosage. So my opinion is that as time goes on it will take more and more test to see results and the bigger you get the more test it will take just to maintain your size.
Look up an article that duchaine wrote about using excess of 4g of aas pw. Pretty interesting. And it comes downto goals in mind how saturated receptors are etc. and really it will/should be hard to give a personal opinion on the matter without pushing a been in the wrong direction or wrong train of thought on the situation.
Thanks, will do!! Didn't he say, the miracles start happening at 3g of test per week?
It could have been. I read it a while back I just remember it being pretty interesting. Send me an fr.
aylmejorYou can only grow so much on your natural test, right..
Eventually you will only grow so much on the dose you put into your body.
I'm not saying go crazy with huge doses from the gate. Go into it and raise as needed along with nutrition and exercise.
What is your Max Mg of test per week? Just out of curiosity.
aylmejorAt the moment i am running 125mg of test e a week with other compounds.... most I've done is 700, but that was short lived.
Steroids push you beyond your natural limit. I’ve never heard any scientific claims that the more gear you take the bigger you’ll get…there are a lot more variables that come into play. Just because you inject shit loads of gear doesn’t mean you’re gonna turn into a iffb pro in a month by sitting on your ass. The more you run the more your body will demand to see results next time around imo. I believe less is more…less gear more food. Did I get off track lol?