posted Fri, 10/19/2012 - 07:11
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SOMETHING VERY ODD HAPPENED!!!
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Ok somthing happened last cycle its been a while back and i just remebered it ok my gurls was pinnin my test-tren shot in my shoulder and this wasnt her first one she had done alot before this happened well she stuck it in the right place she asperated no blood well she slowly injects it and i instantly feel sick to my stomache the room started spinning i was very pale cold and hot at the same time and i was sweating profusly i was very close to telln he to call the ambulance but the risk of telln them what happened i didnt this feeling lasted around 15-20 mins butit was a very insane 15-20 mins i thought she injected into a vein but she asperated i was watchin she pulled back alot
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The biggest clue that you have hit a vein and injected would be the shortness of breath, heavy feeling on your chest, hard to breath, and coughing which it didn't seem like you felt too much. Just because she didn't see blood on aspirating does not necessarily mean that she didn't hit a vein. Some people don't aspirate properly. When over-aspirating (pulling back too hard on the plunger) you can collapse the vein or blood vessel creating nothing but air bubbles. You think you are good when you are really in a vein. When aspirating, you are merely supposed to "flick" back on the syringe to let a "tiny" air bubble slip up the syringe tube through the oil. If you see blood when doing this then you should pull the needle out and re-inject in a different area of the same muscle or in a different muscle. When FULLY INSIDE a vein/blood vessel, the syringe will FILL with blood. When GOING THROUGH a vein/blood vessel the syringe will bring in a couple drops of blood that will be separate from the oil (like mixing oil and water). Either way you should pull out and re-inject, you are too close and could move it a little while injecting.
In this situation, I think Tenacious D is right (+1 good post), you just had a Vasovagal Response, nerves can be a bitch and do some crazy shit man.
Word. I work in the medical field. These guys know whats up. Another point to hit on is blood and oil don't mix and when it gets in the bloodstream and makes its way to your lungs thats where the coughing can occur. Speaking from experience this is not fun. I had that feeling of impending doom and thought I was having heart attack.
You had what was called a vasovagal response. Essentially it is an autonomic response to a stress trigger. Some people get it at blood draws, for example. Some are so sensitive they get it when they see blood. If you dinged a nerve or even chemically stimulated a nerve, it could cause a cascade of things that leads to a vasovagal response.
Useful to know if it ever happens, so you can avoid an ambulance bill. Lie on the floor with you legs above the level of your head and things should pass in a few minutes.
Keep in mind, as stated below, not everyone goes all the way to a faint when this happens. It is a continuum of symptoms resulting from the same autonomic nervous response.
From Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasovagal_response )
"Among people with vasovagal episodes, the episodes are typically recurrent, usually happening when the person is exposed to a specific trigger. Prior to losing consciousness, the individual frequently experiences a prodrome of symptoms such as lightheadedness, nausea, the feeling of being extremely hot (accompanied by sweating), ringing in the ears (tinnitus), uncomfortable feeling in the heart, fuzzy thoughts, a slight inability to speak/form words (sometimes combined with mild stuttering), weakness and visual disturbances such as lights seeming too bright, fuzzy or tunnel vision, and sometimes a feeling of nervousness can occur as well. These last for at least a few seconds before consciousness is lost (if it is lost), which typically happens when the person is sitting up or standing. When sufferers pass out, they fall down (unless this is impeded); and when in this position, effective blood flow to the brain is immediately restored, allowing the person to regain consciousness. Short of fainting a person may experience an almost indescribable weak and tired feeling resulting from a lack of oxygen to the brain due to a sudden drop in blood pressure."
Yea man i tell all my freinds to join eroids u cannot beleive the uneducated population is out there iv been told all kinds of stupid shit to do because they have done it like take winstrol only no AI no pct take oral dbol with no liver support and no AI no pct since there is such a media scare on steroids people that wont to try them caint find the real facts and the DOs and DONTs of starting steroids so they just go off of what there dumbass buddy did and it didnt kill them so it should work fine
Been on aas for about 8 years now and still have never used tren. I recently picked some up for possible use next cycle but I'm still not sure if I'm ready to ride the tren train or not. I to such as yourself started young but for awhile it was just test only cycles and I wish I would have accomplished more naturally and waited to begin aas. There's a lot of knowledge here on erpids that can be gained if you just research. Please if your going to live this life at least learn what your delts are.
I just assumed the legs wer called delts that y i never paid much attention to talk about delt cuz i do not like pinnin in the leg just not for me but thats what i get for assuming lol but i have bros like you to set me straight and i appreciate that
Yea I was just riding you a little. We live and learn. Good luck going foward.
Aaight bro thanks
TREN!...22YRS OLD... SERVES YOU RIGHT BRO,PLAY WITH BIG BOY GEAR .. EXPECT BIG BOY PROBLEMS!
zewiFUCK YES---THIS IS WHAT PISSES ME OFF SO MUCH!!!
Why Dont they Young people listen----SO fucking stupid---everything has to be right fucking now!!
Im not hard headed i was very uneducated about the world of steroids this happened a while back and way before i found eroids luckly i did or i would have continued to fuck up but now i got my bros to say HAY! FUCKTARD! DONT DO THAT!!! and they tell me y not to do it whether yal like it or not yal are my condom protecting me from BIG mistakes ;)
GOOD MAN... THUMBS UP!
I hear ya bro that was sum freaky shit but couldnt that happen with any gear?
YOU TELL ME!... IF YOU RUN TREN NOW YOU SHOULD BY ALL MEANS HAVE TRIED AND LEARNED ABOUT EVERY OTHER COMPOUND OUT THERE!... BUT AM I KIDDING MYSELF ON THAT ONE AND YOU HAVE SIMPLY CHOSSEN TO HIT TREN STRAIGHT OF THE BAT ????
Yes u are right i should have learned about every compound before cycle and definatly not used tren for my first one very dumb i meant what i said more like a question i should have worded it better but can it happen with any gear and can it happen with test only?
DEPENDS ON THE PERSON.. WE ALL ACCEPT AND HANDLE DIFFERENT COMPOUNDS DIFFERENTLY... WHAT AFFECTS ONE NAN MAY NOT AFFECT THE OTHER... THIS IS THE REASON WE PREACH HARD ABOUT LEARNING ONE COMPOUND AT ONCE TO SEE HOW OUR BODIES REACT TO EACH IN TURN... FOR EXAMPLE YOU PINNED TEST/TREN TOGETHER SO YOU CANNOT FIND THE CULPRIT THERE.. IF YOU HAD PINNED SEPERATLY YOU WOULD HAVE A BETTER IDEA .. MY THOUGHTS ON YOUR POST IS THAT YOU HIT A VEIN AND THE REN GOT IN THERE,THATS USUALLY THE REASON FOR TREN COUGH IT HAPPENS EVEN BEFORE THE PIN IS FULLY UNLOADED AND IT FEELS LIKE SOMEONE IS STOOD ON YOUR LUNGS,THE COUGH STARTS AND LEAVES YOU GAGGING FOR A BREATH.
I have read alot of people talking about tren cough i never got it sounds like pure utter hell i wish i would have used the compounds seperatly so i know how i react to each one but leave the tren out for cycle 10 or so
Tren is like the sea bro..calm one minute then in a blink turn into a boiling death machine... watch your self with it bro it CAN and WILL fuck you bad if not used with GREAT RESPECT... i suggest you knockn it on the head and use other stuff until you gain more insight into this game.
Oyea bro i wont be using tren again for a very very long time i will be just sticking with moderate doses of test this happened a good while back im not n it now im more educated now then i was then tren is definatly not for begginers
zewiLove that shit when it happens even though it feels like im going to die..lmao!!!
Lol it happened to suze earlier (first time) i was pissing myself!.. shes been sucking mints for an hour lmao!
zewiLmao.. im sure she kicked you right in the nuts for that one..
Never heard her swear as much bro.. if hadnt been laid on the bed with her kex off i reckon your right!.. i would be nad-less now lol...lol
Dam bro lol
zewi"can it happen with test only"
I have never had it happen with any other gear!!
Do yourself a favor and Stay the fuck away from Tren..
Wait what i meant to say is...
STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM ALL GEAR UNTIL YOU HAVE RESEARCHED EVERY COMPOUND AI AND PCT AND DIET
X2... LACK OF KNOWLEDGE IS CLEARLY EVIDENT.
Boom! No research and wants to ride the rhino. Smh
Yea that rhino dont play nice lol
I just put on 20lbs with a basic light cycle. Using Food as the primary and gear as the aspirin. Anyone can do the same. Bigger is not always better. Light cycles with food as king builds just as well. Better imo...no sides.
I hear ya bro ima be stickin with 600mg test e for 12 weeks then maybe throw in sum EQ after that the extra endurance and feeling hungry all the time is very appealing to me but all that juice wont do a dam thing unless my diet isnt in check
Eq isnt a throw in. it requires perfect diet. Eating correct for the goal or you'll have issues eating latenight pizza. Entire pizza. Its longer n slower too. Not bang...you're huge. More drugs...more complications. Lol
I feel ya thats y ima leave it out for a couple of cycles so i can get all my facts straight since it takes like 2 months or so to kick in it it safe to run the EQ a week or two before starting test
same thing happened to me a few days ago, i aspirated n all and still have no idea what i was, i thought i was gonna pass out
I guess even whene u asperate your not completly safe after that happened right after injection id be quik to apply alot of pressure and it hasnt happened since
ugh another delt horror story. Man i swear every week I read another one. I cut out delts out of my rotation for now. It seems like even when aspirating, some crazy shit happens.
Theres a lot more to that delt horror story. Pm if needed....
I pin delts eod. Dude had tren issues. Another warning against tren.
Haha i hear ya bro i thought delts wer the legs i could be wrong but i got it in my right shoulder
Just stop now. Fuck.
Just stop now. Fuck.
C'mon bro you are joking right, you thought delts were in the legs? You are taking Tren and don't even know where your delts are. Please slow down before you do some permanent damage to yourself.