posted Sat, 10/10/2015 - 16:35
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Risk/reward for an all oral AAS cycle?
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44 yo 155 lbs. Slender.
Have a phobia of needles (which I can surmount if needed) but have read about the various oral AASs. Would a safe and effective protocol be able to be achieved using just the orals? Can it be achieved by cycling through each, or some combination of Anavar, Dianabol, Winstrol, and Halotestin? None seem to be hyper effective by themselves, but many be in combination with Dianabol. That eliminates the need for the pinning which could prove to be intolerant long term.
It this just plain stupid or workable? Not looking to bulk huge. Cut and add maybe 10-15lbs. Thanks for your comments and education.
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Hi mate. Just to share some info, yep oral only will not do much but cause temporary bloat for the short time you can do it, you will deflate after. Please don't take what I'm saying as condescending as definitely not my intention. Firstly eat a lot more. Find out your basal metabolic rate https://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/basal-metabolic-rate
Add at least 500 calories to this a day, lots of protein fish etc. Train using compound (multi-joint) exercises such as bench press, squats, deadlifts, shoulder press,dips and curls. Old school would say aim for 1.5x bodyweight on bench, 2x on squats, and 2.5x on deadlifts. However if your stats are correct you're 44 and this will not be a course of action, you'll probably get injured.
I had a phobia about needles. after the first time you probably won't have an issue. However as we have no idea about how your training is going, instead of suggesting the usual 500mg of Test a week, I would simply go to the doctors. Get full bloods, say you can't put on weight and it's getting you down. My wife did exactly that a month ago. Fortunately she got the all clear. you could have other issues such as low Test, overactive thyroid etc. Hope this helps
Regardless of lifting like a mule for years and eating fairly well, I have low T and all they symptoms that make life less fun than it should be. I'd initially hoped that orals only might help me out of this predicament. Nope. Read here.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/dbol-mistake
You're 5-9 and weigh 155lbs. Shouldn't be anywhere near ANY steroids until you've built a base.
What bothers me about these posts is its been asked and answered a thousand times. Use the search function.
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ok, thx. Nix the orals only. All the info I've read indicates they are for jump starting the cycle, I was thinking maybe they could be the cycle. Now I understand (more clearly) why.
Is pinning with b-12 easier than a cyp or other? For self pinning, where is the easiest, least painful site?
It seems cyp has the longest life- therefore the fewest pins in a cycle?
The wife is always reducing calories while I am trying to boost. I do a lot of shakes to supplement food intake but she is stripping the calories from everything around (like a locust...!).
What is the highest density, clean calorie, easy to carry and eat food? bars?
Most guys prefer glutes. By myself I will pin quads, front delts, side delts, glutes and bis. I always have my chick hit me in the rear delts, lats and traps. You can pin just about anywhere, gotta find a few comfortable spots and rotate injection sites around to the different spots to avoid build up of scar tissue. Won't be issue now but if you stay this road you will want to reduce scar tissue as much as possible for the future. Good luck, you'll be suprised how painless it is once you get a good technique down. When on cycle its as routine as brushing my teeth in the morning for me now.
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Oral only cycles suppress you. You'll make gains fast, and they'll disappear just as fast as they came. Not only that but your HPTA will crash leaving you to feel like stir fried shit. Not worth it. Practice pinning with b-12 intramuscular for a while to get used to sticking yourself.
I'm going to make this short and sweet. Oral only cycles suck!! I'm not sure how long you've been training but with your stats it seems to me that you just need to eat more!! Tons of clean calories will bring you better long term gains then any oral.. And if you are dead set on gear at your age a little test would be the best.. No pun intended .. Ok that's not so short and sweet but fuck it that's my opinion!
WadeBEEOrals are usually used to kickstart a cycle, for no more than 4 weeks. The gains, if your compounds are legitimate will be very noticeable and will come quickly, but unfortunately, they will dissapear just as quickly as you gain them. You can NEVER keep the gains from orals, regardless of which one you chooses. Plus liver toxicity is more pronounced, bloating, acne, GYNO, all the bad sides are more likely to be apparent. No offense, but at 155lbs you shouldnt even consider juice BUT if you do, go see your Dr and inquire about your test levels, if you truly are 44 yrs of age you might be lucky enough to be a TRT candidate. Goodluck
WadeBEEOral only is a waste and combining orals is VERY stupid and dangerous. RESEARch bro