+ 1 Proviron, long term use.
I've read confusing reports on this topic. Some say Proviron is a very mild steroid that can be taken everyday of your life since that's how it's administered by doctors. Others, however, say that it has a rebound effect on estrogen and that it can cause erectile dysfunction because of this.
I ask this question because I'm finishing my second cycle which, just like the first one, I seem to have ruined due to my high estrogen levels. The only time in which this cycle felt right was the week when I was using some Proviron I had lying around.
I've been advised to switch Adex for Aromasin, which I will for my next cycle, but I'm also planning to jump on the train with those who say Proviron improves any cycle. Maybe I can take it also while I'm off cycle? I'd just like to know your opinion, guys.
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Proviron is one of my favourite,in small dosage 25-50/day with some serms can fight against estro,but in higher dose ~150mg/day (last few weeks)gives me amazing results.
IMO it can help burning fat too...
I used proviron without an AI during my last run. It was my first time using it. It was the read deal Bayer Schering. Everything they said it would do, it did! It's a great cycle amplifier. It prevents aromatization of testosterone hence acting as its own AI. It made my libido more intense than with prop. It leaned me out very nicely. I went from 208lbs to 198 in a couple weeks. I shed all the water caused by estrogen. Some said "it's jut an inferior form of Masteron". Well I've also heard people say Masteron is nothing like it. Mast can kill the libido (so some say). Anyway, my opinion, yes it worked great as a cycle amplifier and an AI. But it is no substitute for aromasin. I have run many cycles. Most consist of tren and high test doses. I never used an anti-e/anti-prolactin ever. Never got Gyno. Well the one time I used proviron, I got Gyno as soon as I was done with it. Estro rebound for sure. So I say if you're going to give proviron a shot, that's fine. Do so at 50mg Ed (split) but also run aromasin 12.5 eod. Another thing to consider is being a DHT derivative , it can effect the scalp and prostate negatively. I am already bald so I didn't care. I did however experience more frequent urination and urges to go. I'm 31 years old. I felt like an old lady ,always had to be near a bathroom. Enlarged prostate? Maybe. Saw palmetto ,might wanna keep that handy. Over all I am one of the ones who will say yes proviron is a good addition to every cycle. But it has it's down sides. You need to weigh out the good and bad. Good luck
Hey, just to make it clear I never said I would use it as a substitute of a proper AI! I've known not to do that since my first cycle.
Also, thanks for posting your aromasin dosage. I wasn't sure how most people do it so I'm going to copy that.
12.5 eod is the norm but you may have to tweak it. All depends on the person as with anything else. Some people are sensitive to it and have unwanted sides so they may run 6.25 eod. Some may run 25mg eod. Some 12.5 Ed. You'll figure it out. Aromasin makes me tired. I like to take it at night before bed.
actually proviron is known to not convert to estrogen, and is a DHT derivative. it is still a steroid so i would not use it when you are "off". also i would make the switch to aromasin instead of adex, i like it because of the fact that it is a suicidal ai which means you wont have any estrogen rebound. proviron will make your d!ck stand at full salute bro. if you are really worried about your estrogen levels then have them checked. do you have gyno or any estrogen sides? i especially wouldnt take proviron a lot if you are prone to balding, since it is a dht derivative.
Yeah, these are all the reasons why I like Proviron so much and yes, I had my estrogen levels checked after my first cycle and PCT and they were pretty high which lead me to think that maybe they have been high all my life without me knowing.
I think I'm not prone to either gyno or bladness, now, I hold water like a motherfucker and my workouts as of late have been less than great, probably from the estrogen.
I will order some Proviron this Summer and will probably be taking it during my off time to get rid of all this water and feel better. I'll let you guys know how it works.
but i have also seen many people use it as a kind of a "cruise" or bridge between cycles. you could use it during your pct to lower estrogen and raise testosterone,also it is a really good drug on cycle to free up test, and some say it can work in conjunction with other steroids to make them "stronger" which it seems is from the fact that it helps free up test. also on one popular site it says that proviron has no depressing effect on luteinizing hormone and FSH, so technically you could run it however long without any ill effects, but i have never tested that so i cant say how true that is. but since it is a steroid, maybe not as strong as others, i would still think hard about going on this from now on.