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PIP and redness/swelling after shooting shoulders

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I have been using Test-E starting at 250mg twice a week and recently upped it to 750mg weekly. I have been experiencing extreme PIP lasting for days when shooting shoulders. I alternate between shoulders and quads. Quads also experience days of PIP but it is more tolerable. Every time I shoot shoulders the area will become warm and turn red all the way down to my forearms and swell up. Quads never turn red. Whichever shoulder I shoot will swell up for a couple of days. The bicep/tricep will swell to at least 1 inch bigger than the other arm. I have been on this cycle for about 6 weeks and this is continuing. Is this a problem with the gear?

ashop's picture

You are first guy I heard with PIP. BP products have no benzylbenzoate so is zero PIP. Only human grade brands are doing BB FREE ( example: Jelfa ) because final products need to be sterilized in autoclave. A UG product done without BB can be a biologic bomb. Since is BB FREE I never heard of any pain

I sent you on PM a proposal if you know what oil you are not allergic we can replace with SP brand with a customized oil at your choice

hardhitter's picture

It doesn't burn at all. Just gets sore and increases in soreness for 1-2 days and starts to swell and stays red for 2-3 days. It's like getting DOMS but worse.

ty_ty13's picture

does it burn when injecting or after injecting?

hardhitter's picture

This is my 3rd cycle so I don't think it's the technique. I leave the needle in for about 30 seconds. I also run the syringe under hot water to heat the oil which seems to help slightly. I've been doing 1.5cc in delts so it's under 2cc already. I'll have to get longer needles and start doing glutes. It's my first time using Balkan but they have good reviews.

Makwa's picture

Sometimes certain brands just don't agree with some people. Find out what they use for their oil and try a different brand that uses a different oil. The gear may be fine but you could just be allergic to what ever oil they are using.

hardhitter's picture

Yeah that could be it. Unfortunately I have a lot left so I will tolerate it until I'm out.

Makwa's picture

quit pinning your shoulders and try your glutes instead. If it is giving you problems there I would question my gear. If your pinning technique is correct, you should not be experiencing these effects from quality gear.

juiceball8082's picture

Try reducing the amount in delts bro. 2 cc's tops.

Trapsquatch's picture

Could be,Could also be you injection technique sucks and your not getting deep into your delt,when doing your delts after your done injecting keep the needle in for about 10 seconds and let the oil disperse because if you don't the oil can potentially leak out and go sub-q irritating your skin and it will drip down to your triceps/bicep area causing redness it will start out as a blotch and by a few days a good portion of your arm will be red.Anyways I rambled it could be your gear and your body poorly reacting to the gear,But I would bet your technique sucks so work on that because all of our techniques sucked when we first started =)