perfect cycle?
from the guys who have run several cycles.. how does this look..trying to do everything safe and perfect and have researched a lot..
week 1 test e-400 per week
week 2 test e-400 per week HCG 250 IU 2X WEEK
week 3 test e-500 per week HCG 250 IU 2X WEEK
week 4 test e-500 per week ..add aromasin 12.5 ED HCG 250 IU 2X WEEK
week 5 test e- 600 aromasin ED 12.5 HCG 250 IU 2X WEEK
week 6 600 test e aromasin ED 12.5 HCG 250 IU 2X WEEK
week 7 600 test e aromasin ED 12.5 HCG 250 IU 2X WEEK
week 8 600 test e aromasin ED 12.5 HCG 250 IU 2X WEEK
week 9 600 test e aromasin ED 12.5 HCG 250 IU 2X WEEK
week 10 600 test e aromasin ED 12.5 HCG 250 IU 2X WEEK
week 11 600 test e aromasin ED 12.5 HCG 250 IU 2X WEEK
week 12 600 test e aromasin ED 12.5 HCG 250 IU 2X WEEK
week 13 aromasin 12.5 HCG 250 IU 2X WEEK
week 14 aromasin 12.5 HCG 250 IU 2X WEEK
week 15 -week 18 nova 40/40/20/20 with aromasin 12.5 everyday
any feedback or adjustments would be appreciated before this is put into effect
--*** ***also what happens if once you start aromasin everyday if you skip a few days here and there of taking it?
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tread-mYou have "researched a lot" and left out all the things we ask for in a post for self advice...hmmmm. the building you researche in was not the mayo clinic it was the mayo-naise clinic Nooka! Bet you make a mean ass sandwich though....likey! Throw down stats brother, donkt worry about cycle history the format here tells me its first...still love ya Nooka!
im going to assume this is your first cycle. i think its great that youre just doing test u will have great gains. the issue i have with this is the aromasin. it is great to have on hand but the fact remains all these compounds are new to you so u will not get an accurate measurement of how they affect u individually. i dont think it is necessary to run hcg throughout this cycle but if u want to take preventative measures then fine..as far as "preventative" measures goes i would keep the aromasin on hand and get familiar with the symptoms of high estrogen and when u feel the need i would do 12.5 eod or e3d (assuming u dont have existing gyno). my main piece of advice would be other than gaining muscle during this cycle another important thing u will gain is knowledge so u can better plan future cycles. remember, everyone is different so find out how these compounds work optimally for YOU
thanks papa pumps --appreciate the advice , as for the high estrogen, if you take it not as often will there be fluctuations in estrogen levels going up and down? also besides gyno, any other symptoms i should watch out for that the aromasin will tackle?
That seems like an awful lot of aromasin, I would hope u wouldnt be planning to run HCG through the whole cycle, every cycle u do... I would stick with 500mg test e per week each week. Glad u decided on just doing testosterone
U might get away with a 3 week PCT, but I think it is pretty much the norm and efficient to do 4 weeks, Clomid 100/100/50/50 and Nolva 40/40/20/20. Good luck bud
what's the disadvatage of running hcg the whole cycle..dont see why that would be a problem?
dbolzHCG will increase your estrogen/oestrogen levels and unless you have some good levels of test in you to balance things out you might run into issues with estrogen domination. No need to use hcg early atrophy starts around week 5-6 anyway. Starting the hcg at week 4 is early enough and you will have a good amount of testosterone in you to ensure test domination. Running it from day 1 is both a risk and a waste.
when taking the HCG and test, since you said theres higher estrogen levels , so itll most likely end up being necessary for the aromasin? and why EOD like u stated
dbolzFor a test only cycle eod is the most you will need. Look the cycle i planned for you aromasin starts at week 3 and hcg at week 4. Its all covered there. Also you might need less than 12.5mg eod, anywhere from 6.25mg eod to 12.5mg e3d. You have to adjust the dose according to your body. If you dose it ed with just test you will probably end up with low e2 and not optimal gains. Try and use as little AI as possible. You will know once you hit the sweet point.
dbolzWeek 1-12 Test e 600mg
Week 3-14 Aromasin 12.5mg eod
Week 4-13 HCG 250iu e3d
Week 14-18 Nolva 40/40/20/20
Week 14-19 Aromasin 6.25mg eod/e2d
When I look at this it makes me say shy, whys more ancillaries than juice. 500 mgs test e is perfect for first cycle. Then two weeks after last pin, which should be week fourteen you take double nolva and clomid for two weeks the two after that 20 nolva, 50 clomid. Your complicating the shit out of a first cycle here. Aromasin on hand for when absolutely needed, but its very doubtful at this dose you'll need it.
sgtstedankoYou should wait youngen... I was informed pyramiding, is a thing of the past. As for hcg or aro, I havent a clue, but thst doesn't look right. I could be wring though, its late : (
biggerthanyouI agree pyramiding or ramping up as ive always known it, is pretty much pointless esp at this small of an increase
As for the aromasin id cut that down to eod at the most maybe e3d. Hcg on cycle is used for easier natty test recovery after getting off cycle and 250iu/2x week is what ive always seen recommended
Is that why ur leaving clomid out of ur pct? Although ur a bit young for what ppl around here think, chances are ur gonna go through with it. Looks like youvr done good research but do more! Theres always new things to learn about safely using steroids! Best of luck brother
sgtstedankoGee Thanks Mr. But this isn't my post, & the kid's still 23! I know, It's late
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biggerthanyouWhat are your stats bro? How many cycles have u run? Age?