posted Wed, 06/08/2016 - 12:03
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Not looking to bulk or bloat--just last bit of fullness and definition. Can a cycle work?
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Hey,
I'm not a bodybuilder but a print model. Im 31, 6'2 around 175 and 8-9% body fat. My physique has looked about the same for the last decade, which is ideal for me, but over these lasts few years it has become much more difficult to maintain the fullness and definition i'd like. Im doing cardio 5-6 days a week and lifting with a trainer 4 days. My calories are at 3500 and my diet is clean.
I'm really not looking for mass (5lbs tops) and bloating/acne won't work for me. My current test level is 450.
Is there a light test or test/anavar cycle that might work for me? Anavar only even?
My trainer wants me on a huge test cyp cycle, but he's 5'10 240.. with very different goals from me. Wanted some other opinions.
Thanks!
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With natural test levels at 450 and you are able to maintain 8-9%, I wouldn't risk messing that up. Even if you run a perfect beginners cycle and do everything right, you still have the chance of destroying your endocrine system.
Post up your macros so one of our diet gurus can get you straightened out. Sounds to me like you need more carbs in your diet if your muscles are flat?
Get a different trainer. His cycle advice is horrible and his training style probably doesn't match your goals either.
look into epehdrine. this might be exactly what you are looking for. gives your muscle more hardness and you'll be able to hold a tad more muscle while being leaner.
also no acne and no bloating quite the opposite
RustyhookerThats a garbage way to advise to a thin guy. Suggest you research better before posting like that
6'2" 175# 8-9% bf according to OP.
Do you really think he needs ephedrine???
it's not just a fat burner ephedrine will harden him up. more vascularity. it will not eat up any muscle if he doesn't megadose. Yes 20mg a day will do a difference. you will see more veins e.g.
I don't need to read anything thaving used ephedrine as my first 'ped' since years. I'm speaking from personal experience and it will harden up the existing muscle and maybe add a tad more due to more motivation from the ephedrine. I think this is exactly what he wants. no acne. no bloat. no additional muscle. more definition.
I think you should be clearer in the way you describe it. Ephedrine doesn't harden muscle, there is no biochemical evidence of that. It does though, as you say, give the user an extra boost in terms of energy and endurance, pushing them a little further in theory during their workouts. This may make the muscle look harder when combined with the thermogenic effects of the drug helping fat loss. I think this is what you were trying to put across.
You should fill out your stats in your profile FYI. Gives people an idea of who you are etc.
RustyhookerThermogenic and diacritics of eca stack, correct. If you're lean just water control will give the appearance of hard muscle. Precomp guys know that struggle. True also that ephedrine doesn't shuttle nutrients which would cause larger muscles or cause hardening
TronI read below you dont want to gain anything..not even 5ibs....dude just diet and keep using your bowflex.
TronWhat the fuck is a "print model"?? .......sounds gay.
RustyhookerPrint model. Any magazine in PRINT uses models. The pay was excellent back in the day so I'd imagine its still so.
TronOh...got ya..I am NOT one of those myself.
RustyhookerIm more like the michellin man.....lol
RustyhookerNo.
Thanks!
bigmurphI believe that your trainer like you said yourself has very defrent goals. I would up your diet with more protein and add some normal supps that will fill you out because thats what it sounds like to me you want maybe creatine. If you search this site up top with the magnifying glass read up on different diet techniques that will get you exactly where you want to be. If you run gear you will get acne and bloat and if you make money modeling thats not going to work out for you also the build you will end up with just guessing won't be the model type build.
Its all in the diet brother good luck and good gains brother.
Hey thanks for your reply! I think you're right. Even creatine bloats me a bit more than i can manage so test is probably going to be way too extreme.
To gain 5# at your weight and height only requires food. Maybe drop the cardio some as well. 3500 cal and you're currently burning it all off. Gear is not needed or advised at this stage. Absolutely no point.