posted Sat, 05/05/2012 - 16:29
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Has anyone ever used tren ace and never received a cough and knew it was legit?
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Has anyone ever used tren ace and never received a cough and knew it was legit?
Guys i have just spoken with DT in PM we have spoken in depth and this is what we agreed on,DT will be coming off cycle and running a hard PCT protocol on my advice,and will for the forseeable future be concentrating on diet and training natural until he is a few years older.
The point we made has been heard and will be adressed by DT lets leave this thread here guys or it will just turn into a slanging match and then mods are involved and then you know what happens.
Thanks guys V.
You seem to have an imense calming effect with people,especially men i see it happen most days in our day to day life and it is another reason why i love you so much,this effect is now even coming across on the internet i am amazed,keep doing what you do to keep these people safe.
tread-mI would say you're a lucky gal but you both got lucky in each other, beautiful people!
Very good V and DT. Glad to hear that.
Awesome if I could give you both Karma I would
Anoni will
tread-mVery nice V and very nice DT. I have tried to be somewhat informative knowing he is head strong and somewhat refused to change but would at last listen to the degree of help which was good. I know how I was at his age and frankly you may not have been able to talk me down at 21 when I rolled unfortunately! I thought an occassinal helpful tip would be better than letting him along without it given there are "safer ways to do dangerous things" but at the end of the day your time spent and gentle caring nature is a powerful thing! The thing is, he has far more genetic potential than you or I did, me certainly anyway and I know you can blow his mind with diet and hard work. +3 to both of you for communication!
Thanks bro... just doing what V does here DT listened and accepted so i respect him for that.
What if you make it through this cycle and nothing goes wrong. Will you tell people that are your age that it worked for me and that is what they should do? When you give advice do you tell kids why wait jump on the tren now? Do you tell people that Test only 1st cycle is bullshit they should run multiple compounds that they have never tried? I dont think there is anything that will change you but I think you should keep your mouth shut so not to encourage others to follow in your footsteps. From your actions you should not be allowed to give advice.
DT-SwoleI haven't gave anyone advice on anything. I'll tell people how my cycle went and whatever they do is their choice.
this is what is bad. Your cycle sucks you know it sucks and if it goes good and people follow then they get fucked up and the only reason they did the cycle is because yours went so fucking well. You wont be able to tell what your cycle did to you for years you will regret it and the people that follow you will regret it too. This site is about helping people and what you are doing could fuck a lot of people up. I understand you going to do it anyway I just wish you would shut up about it until you have some words that help people.
DT-SwoleYou should shutup until you learn some proper grammar and creating sentences that make sense.
wait until your 25 or 30 and you will look back and laugh at how stupid you are.
Just bumped into this post!! WTF DT 20yrs old you know better than this bro, cmon get your fukn act together take it from me bro you will enter a world of fukn pain if you carry on using this young, you have knowledge and you have your size just back it off for a while and do yourself a big favour,this is not hating bro this is HELPING i dont want to see another young casualty of aas and believe me bro i have seen plenty in my time.
The part that I don't like (other than him usin tren) is he asked me for my honest opinion and experience. I spent an hour talkin to him and giving him in depth accounts of the things that I've done that I regret and shouldn't have. I took the time and laid it all on the table. He said he understood and agreed. I respected that. Next thing I know he says he's on 100mg tren eod. Smh. Sad really. I don't like people asking me for advice ,I give my experience and advice and they flat out ignore me as if we didn't discuss it. I broke it down as in depth as I could. I like you DT, you have a lot of promise physically but you should really sit back and start listening. Your posts are all over the place I've noticed. Stop talking and listen for now! These guys won't tell you something just to be jerk offs. They know what they're talking about. The train train doesn't seem like a big deal but you wait and see what happens. Hopefully you get lucky. Start taking the advice given bro. No need to take offense. You walked into this shit storm
all of us at that age wouldnt listen to anyone. Are natural hormones (that he is fucking up right now) we where just getting used to them. It would be a miracle if anyone got through to him and I think it is a waste of time to try. Its a shame someone cant save him but there has been a lot of people try. Most of his threads are crazy and I am not to sure if he is not trying to just get attention.
He told me he is currently on his first test only cycle! Is this not true? I read down a little further that it may not be. I know he is a giant kid but I hope he's telling the truth. By looking at him I would never have guessed he's 20 on his first run.
if you read through some posts he says he is running test e at 1000mg per week is also running dbol and tne and said he pinned some prop so who nows what to belive i just dont want other noobs to see this and think it is ok and they get hurt
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DT-SwoleSo not only are you running tren, but you're running around bad mouthing shit you've never used too huh? Must be all that tren you're running. That's why trens not a drug for kids. Obviously it turns you into a ho if you run an outrageous dose when you should barely be taking test in the first place ;)
This post is nothing even close to being advice.
tread-mI'll throw this down for your thinking and while I consider it theory I have done it enough to think there is validity to it. I warm my gear slightly with a hair dryer. I do this in part because my lifestyle keeps me warm most of the time, this means my house thrmostat sets on 67, that means my gear is 67 degrees and my body is 98.6 degree's hence I warm the gear "a bit". So having said so I have developed a theory. When you warm tren too much I think you are more likely to cough from a quicker "uptake". The other theory I have which is also been all but proven in my case is that a cool room keeps the lungs less likely to cough. The worst I have had was in a bathroom that was extremely warm. I was warming some crystalized gear in there and it got very hot, so I hit and already very hot in the BR I coughed for a while pretty good and back to back. Today another good example, fairly warm bathroom, my wife was warming it given I keep it so cold and I hit and had mild cough but I have never hit in the nice cool bathroom and had any desire to cough whatsoever. Just a little tip I think is actually an issue but worth noting I guess in case you become prone. The other thing, the longer you are on the more likely you are to develop the cough, I never seem to have an issue first few pins in, even in a warm room but as the cycle progresses I am more prone. Again, cool room, never an issue. I don't get the severe shit anyway but mild I do. The other thing with tren of course, mixed with your other compounds its less likley and as well run it in very slow..big help. Had a.buddy who hit tren one time and one time only and ran it in way quick, seconds, coughed to the point he could not breathe...literally. nice and slow!
DT-SwoleI inject my compounds very slowly, about 2 mins per ML.
My lungs have only gotten tight on me one time. Never actually gotten a cough though. Maybe it's the fucking ephedrine and cofee in the morning.
I've been on the floor a few times with tren-e wondering if I was gonna get back up. Sometimes the cough hits me hard..
yes, i have used tren a shit ton of times and i have never got the cough and i know that it was legit. ive used all the esters that is available with tren, but most people get the cough with the acetate ester more so than the others. one thing that may cause it not to happen is mixing the tren with another compound, such as test p, in the barrel. another way is to inject real slow. but some people are more prone to the cough than others. but just cause you dont get the cough doesnt mean that your tren isnt real.
You shouldn't be on tren. But tren cough doesn't happen to everyone and it's more prominent in finaplix. If you don't have fina converted tren, well then you don't have fina converted tren. Lol.
AnonHe shouldn't be on tren.... but the claim of this being a "first cycle" is false you and I know this brother. No hate here DT, just don't try to lie about these kinds of things there's no reason. I did a cycle at 16 bro, a fucked up completely shut you down deca only cycle with research chems for PCT. Under the "guidance" of much older dudes at the time.... They had ALL of us high school kids juicing it was beyond fucked up, and just to make a few bucks as we were grossly overpaying..... I'm surprised I even have natural test today. We've made mistakes too there's no reason to lie here.
DT-SwoleWtf? how the hell do you know if this is my first cycle or not? I've only ran prohormones previous to this. It's kind of retarded for you to assume shit and believe it's completely true. Shows how ignorant you are how big someone can get with the right training and diet. Which ALOT of you people on here need to learn before even touching AAS.
Myobolix-PharmaYou're 20. A pro hormone is a sad excuse for previous experience.. and if you're pointing figures at diet, judging by your tren dosage- you shouldnt be the the mid/high (bodyfat) double figures. Just my .02
I dont think people are hating on you, just hoping you would make smarter decisions. What do you plan on your cycles looking like by the time you're 25 and your receptors are shit. You're hitting this so hard at such a young age, you'll be dependent in the years to come with no hope of a "happy" natural.. DO you plan on shooting 5000mg a week in the next 5 years?
X 2 ......goddamn 20 years old....and his posts are all over the place.
DT-SwoleWhat the hell does this have to do with anything? are you stalking me or something? I post where I want to post and it's relevant to the topic. Maybe if you guys spent less time hating on online forums and focus more on your workouts you'd have a physique that looks like you lift something.
Anonunless I've missed something you've yet to post a pic beyond your avi pic which doesn't prove anything considering the angle etc etc. Goth already called you on that lets see guns "bicep boy", let's see those supposed 20.5 inchers. He's commenting on how your posts are everywhere because you post up BAD advice hence how your karma has dropped by what like 8-10 already? I've gotten karma more than once for CORRECTING something you've said loll. Pro hormones such as superdrol ARE STEROIDS the fact that you munched on those before doing real AAS is nothing to brag about it just shows your ignorance.... PH's shut down your HPTA as well and are imo worse for you than say your basic test cycle which would yield far greater results obviously. Don't get your panties up in a bunch dude your running TREN your first cycle you're going to get flamed for being dumb - the end. My previous reply was actually written very nicely as I could've tore into you.... back up.
DT-SwoleYou're an idiot. My avi proves all I want it to prove. Why don't you post up a pic instead of blabbing. I haven't gave anyone advice in the past month so I don't know where you get this "I corrected you and got karma" bullshit. And your little speech about PH's has nothing to do with the fact that I've never ran any other compounds besides OTC PH. Don't get your asshurt because you're wrong, be a man and admit the facts. And get off the mods ballsack.
AnonOops look at that a +3 for my post. Looks like I wasn't wrong my facts are solid, and yes I've gotten karma not once but twice for correcting you now. I NEVER CLAIMED TO HAVE 20 INCH ARMS. Hence why I could give a flying fuck about posting up pics, I've never lied about having a crazy physique unlike you "swole". Your avi looks like 17 inch arms TOPS to me considering you smashed those bloated ass water filled ugly mofo's up against your side to make them look bigger - you really think you can pull that kind of shit over on a website full of people with this level of experience?? I'd bet my currently tiny left nut my 190 lb. ass slings more weight around than you do in all realms outside of bench because of an injury. I could take a pic of my under 17 inch arms and have them look BIGGER than yours do in your avi because mine actually have definition, bust out the tape measure or take a REAL bicep shot like train brain or goth has put up then we'll stfu. Until then, stop PRETENDING to be a badass super beast you aren't fooling anyone kiddo. In my opinion - you look like a water balloon. Hop on an AI. 20 inches my ass.....
If you woulda just stopped, looked , and listened to the guys that care enough and put the time in to help lil bros like you......you may of had a chance to finish growing for christs sake......instead diving head first into tren and the like at 20.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/first-cycle-plan-for-un....
DT-SwoleI'm 21 in 2 months bro, I'm already in the gate and not going to just quit halfway. I'm done arguing with you people, it is pointless and bad for my own mentality. Have a good day and train hard.
Everyone is different, ............mismarked vial,......bla bla bla........bla.
I coughed like crazy with Tren E then after a couple of weeks I was wanting to stick my thumbs in people's eye sockets and bite their noses off so I decided it was time to stop pinning it
Lmao maaan that's some funny shit
AnonI've yet to cough once and theres no question what I have is legit. Then again I aspirate....
I got a bit of a chemical taste in my mouth once, and after the pin I noticed a very small speck of blood in the dart. Which likely means I went right through a vein so a small amount got into my blood stream.
Off topic but... I like to aspirate, then pull the needle up maybe 1/8 of an inch, aspirate again.... if I have gone through a vein and and the pin is sitting just barely outside of it I don't feel comfortable shooting. 2-3 days ago I pulled it up about 1/8 inch as I just described and sure enough I was right in a vein. Worth doing IMO, the example I gave with the chemical taste in my mouth was before I started doing this double aspirate business.
sometimes i get the chemical taste too. i also like to aspirate a few times especially if i move or shake.
AnonI pin mainly quads so veins are a constant factor for me.... never hit a vein anywhere else but quads
Some of the tren lovers post...no cough. Others cough til scarey..
dbolzI was always under the impression that you get the cough if you clip or touch a vein you wont get it everytime you pin tren. If it gets in your blood stream even if its a minute ammount you will be coughing but not everytime.