NEED URGENT STEOROID ADVICE !!!
Hey guys
need urgent decent advice
im 25 years old around 5ft 10 and weigh in around 65-70 kg
im looking to start my first cycle but iv done alott of research and im getting confused by alott off cycles :(
im deffo a newbie to this stuff so any good advice id love to hear it,
im looking to start a course of TEST PROP and D-Bol and run the dbol for 5 weeks and test for maybee 12 weeks? so if thats a stupid cycle to run dont laugh or think im stupid as i am a newbie to steroids..i just want to know if that is a good advisable first cycle to run? & if not some advice would be highly appreciated from regular users who know there stuff
so if your gunna comment and leave advice please do it in lehmans erms so i can understand it lol
& sorry for my stupidity but everyone has to start off somewere lol
thanks guys !!
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hey Kaz, first let me commend you on listening to what the guys have already shared with you and postponing your first cycle. Now I'd like to reinforce that decision and point out why what you decided is the right thing. given your age and lack of time training with dedication if you did start your first cycle now, yeah you'd put on a good amount of weight, (upwards of twenty pounds) because there's nothing better or more effective than the first properly run cycle, but that's it then, from there forward the progress you'll get will be less and less. postponing this will allow you knuckle down, get serious with your nutrition and training and put on those twenty plus pounds naturally all the while getting leaner. I did this myself, I trained a little more than two years without using aas and that's exactly what happened I went from a 38inc waist to a 34 and put on about 15lbs of lean muscle tissue just with a proper diet and getting serious with my training. when I did finally take that plunge I used 500mgs of test a week for 12 weeks and if I recall I made a 22lb gain. so you see by having a little patience I doubled my progress over what someone who just starts training does with a I want it fast, and I want it now attitude. in those two years it also afforded me the time necessary to learn more about aas, and post cycle therapy so when I did start I had the advantage of proper knowledge. and knowledge is power my friend!
great piece off advice and motivation superman75 !
How long have you been working out?
Rustyhooker5-10 @ 150lbs. Great April fools!!! High five!
how is that aprils fools?
Sorry at 5"10 65kgs you have no buisness near steroids im not being rude but thats ridiculous man you got at least two more solid years of flat out lifting and eating before you even start. Those stats are not even comprehensible to anywhere near steroid material.
right guys iv taken the advice on board,,best way to take it from here on is to build on my weight and mass with a good clean diet, im putting off the cycle for a wile,gunna see what 12 weeks off healthy eating alone can do for me.
il keep me stats updated in the near future and lett you guys know how im getting on along with before and after photos after 12 weeks lol!!
brilliant advice and a brilliant fourm !! cheers guys !!
Shit a brick....
It sounds like someone is actually going to take the advice that's been passed out, nice one fella
If that is what you have come up with then you haven't done crap for research.. Also you are 5'10" and around 150lbs(maybe less if you are 65kg). You don't need AAS you need FOOD.
okay so what do u reccomend? eat like a horse till i put weight on and then start my first cycle??
pretty much yes. What is your BF%? I see you eat clean maybe you need to get a little dirty. What would be a typical day as far as meals go for you currently?
also that cycle is a mess. wouldn't even think about doing it.
BF maybe in between 10-15% ..at one point i was weighing in around 78kg ..lost alott off weight over the last year due to a new job were there is no canteen so basically my daily food intake has been shitt,,pot noodles sandwiches and handy microwavable shitt,,but thats all changing from today
Anonhttps://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/so-you-think-your-at-1...
Look at that and get a better estimate of where you are at.
what would u recommend for a good starting cycle then??
If you feel comfortable posting a pic up I would say you should do that. Would show roughly what your BF% is and see you have a base. 10-15% on myself is a massive difference in appearance. Other then that I would not recommend you to cycle anything yet.
How long have you been training and what was your starting weight?
10-15% encompasses a lot of variation, my bet is you're higher possibly?
truthfully my BF is quite low in around 10-15% ..checked it around 6 weeks ago as was getting worried bout me weight ,,what would u recommend as a good starting cycle?
Anonhttps://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/weight-gain
Go here first, read, research, learn and apply.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/diet-clinic-now-live
Then go here and get more advice from vets, dial everything in.
https://www.eroids.com/og/beginners-cycles
Finally, go here, join, read....Research, and research some more. Once you feel confident, research some more. Then post up a proposed cycle in the cycle log section so we can critique.
This whole process should take you months or even years if you really want to be patient, learn and do shit right. Especially to naturally get your weight up. There is no rush, steroids will always be here, your health may not if you do things fucked up.
X2! Great info +1
cheers for that,,although i already have done alot of research into steroids, to me the best thing i could come up with is test prop 12 weeks and dbol 5 week course and then run the pct when the cycle finishes. alott off people have said that any cycle shoud have a test base and i wanted to run it along with d-bols? i dont want to get into the harder gear like tren deca etc ,,test seems to be the safest from what iv came across with less side effects etc ..maybee iv made a bad choice i reckon after everyones comments lol
Well that's not exactly a recommended first cycle here on eroids... Why don't you use the magnifying glass up top, research a beginner cycle, proper PCT, and then come back and post your findings.
Or better yet, post up your diet because you've clearly got room to grow on food alone, and you won't grow using steroids if your diet is off.
yeah my diet is off ,,but today i spent near £200 on clean foods ,,chicken,cottage cheese,brown rice,tuna protein shakes ,fruit and veggie fish etc , my diet has changed from today and from tommorow im gunna start my first cycle of steroids, just want to know the best way to start off ..im not lookin for a wonder cycle were i want results within a day i know it takes time and patience and thats what i have. just want some good advice
It's apparent you have your heart set on running a cycle. I've never understood though why people do not look at the signs in front of them. If 10 seasoned steroid users tell you not to run this cycle, don't you think that would mean something. Like maybe you should slow down?
If you are just starting to diet, good. Get your diet right. And after you've been eating clean for a few years (to make sure it's not just a fad for you) then you can cycle.
yeah i do have my mindset on starting a cycle,, i was once told by a bodybuilder that going to the gym and not taking steroids is no fun lol ,,im in this for the long run its not just a 12 week phase were il start and stop ..iv always been into fittnes but now i want to take it to the next level and see what changes i can make
"In it for the long run" but just starting to diet tomorrow.
Listen bud, there's no guaranty that you will recover. I did my first cycle three years ago, I did the simplest beginners cycle and guess what? I'm on TRT because I never recovered. the long run may be you stabbing yourself weekly for the rest of your life. You ready for that?
what i meant by ''im in it for the long run'' is by sticking at the gym not constant steroid abuse lol,, Whats TRT and what do u mean u never recovered ??
I never recovered from my first cycle, my natural testosterone production has been shut down since my first cycle. Now I go to a doc who prescribes me testosterone that I have to inject weekly for the rest of my life.
You're doing this for all the wrong reasons with an attitude like that. You should see wht changes you can make utilizing your new diet. Trust me, start with that.
okay ..so what il do then is il not start a steroid cycle but il take a photo of me as i am now then in 12 weeks time il post a photo of what gains iv made from a new diet and been at the gym? and see what you's guys think? i am taking this advice onboard its coming fom people who know what there talking about right?
+1 for keeping an open mind. Check out our diet section here in the forums if you need help tuning in the diet.
If you truly have patience, do not start this cycle tomorrow. Get your diet down first, and get your weight and mass up using nothing but your new diet. Then you can think about cycling. If you're looking to gain mass, I hope you bought some carbs brother. Pasta and bread and potatoes... And you're looking at spending that much on food weekly now, so make sure you can continue it.
yeah pasta brown wholewheat bread and sweet potatoes have been got ,, i know alott about healthy foods i just never been commited to a healthy diet until now, yeah i can continue it i wouldnt off started unless i could of done,, i am taking this advice on board so its not going to waste (:
I was hoping for An elaborate April fools joke
no april fools joke mate..its past 12 am lol