posted Thu, 10/23/2014 - 15:42
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My first injection, possible infection?
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Performed my first pin on Tuesday of test e, 1mL, left quad and a 1 inch 25g needle. Maintained aseptic/sterile technique throughout the whole process. It's now Thursday night and it's slightly red, swollen and little warm. No fever. No pain sitting down, hurts like a SOB to walk. Applied heat for about 1 hour earlier today and that didn't help much. Other eroids members have suggested it's just virgin muscle pain, while a friend thinks I didn't go deep enough.
Any suggestions? My plan is to just keep a close eye on it and monitor the symptoms..
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So it's Saturday night and it's still slightly swollen, red and warm. There is still some pain, but it has subsided within the last day or 2 and stated before, the ibuprofen does help.
So far:
Tuesday - pin with not much pain
Wednesday - soreness, leg day
Thursday - pain level at it's highest, difficult walking
Friday - soreness started to decrease
Today - another decrease in soreness
What is concerning is the area/diameter of the redness. Started out with the diameter close to an apple. The surface area of redness has increased to about the size of a large cantaloupe. I do have some amoxicillin stored away that I'm contemplating on using if needed.
Quads just dont work for everyone. Mine swell upand have that same reaction like that every time. You will just have to play around and try other sites. Delts are my favorite, and I just pinned pecs for the first time yesterday and may have a new favorite pin spot. Youll be fine. Its just PIP.
Pecs! You are quite bold my friend.
TronI use to deal with pip all the time and got sick of it. This is my anti-pip protocol that works for me every single time and if i do get it it's just a little and very tollerable. ..... Draw gear into syringe, switch needle heads so you are injecting with a fresh razor sharp needle. (never use the same one you drew up gear with).. Take a hair dryer and heat while rotating for a couple minutes to get it as close to body temperature as possible, inject into your site (be sure to sterilize area first) and then get into the hot shower and or go work out. This will help distribute the gear properly throughout your body as opposed to just sitting down or being inactive after injection. Once I discovered this technique it made a night and day difference. OH... and never do your first injection ever into your quad lol! guess it's too late. lesson learned. The only concern I have is you said the spot is warm and swollen and although it may not mean an infection, it could be the beginning of a painful abscess from not going deep enough. I know because this happened to me and it hurt like hell for 2 weeks bro... good news is it's not permanent and as long as there is no infection (and I seriously doubt it's an infection) So you should be fine.. a little bit of pain but hey... it's all part of the game bro. It happens to all of us eventually. It is completely normal to have lots of concerns when you first start cycling. I was so scared because of all the bull shit horror stories you see on T.V. about steroids but the good news is you are going to find as long as you follow proper procedures and use aas safely it actually has a lot more pro's than it does cons and the cons are very minimal and there are a hell of a lot worse side effects in MOST of the prescription meds out there. As far as your swollen area goes your not in any danger. Keep an eye on it and if you start experiencing fever and feeling ill you should seek medical attention and be honest with them. IMO you are going to be just fine... after all it's a virgin quad muscle.. it's gonna hurt like a son of a bitch!
Thanks Tron for the concern and reassurance! I appreciate it more than you can imagine!
Just to add to what everyone else has been telling you, stay away from the high mg/ml gear for a couple cycles. I know a guy that jumped on some 500 mg test e and prop 200 and thought it was shit because of the pain that came with it. Higher mg's will almost always have extra pip.
Thanks Steel, I'm using Balkan Pharma's test E, 250mg/ml.
My first ever shot was in my quad, holy shit the pip was so bad It hurt to walk for a week.
That helps me feel a little better about the situation! I guess I'm just looking for some reassurance that this isn't an infection. There are only 3 people that I have chose to tell and can talk to about my cycle, 2 close friends.. and eroids lol.
Btw, I sent you a friend request a week or two ago. Not sure if you saw it.
I know this is off topic, but how in the hell do you give karma?
You have to get go 50 before you can give karma
I'll accept it now I usually don't if you don't have any stats in your profile.
Virgin muscle pip.
Heating pad
Massage
Ibuprofen.
See if that helps.
^^^^^^^ this +1 for answer and solution
The 400mg of ibuprofen has kicked in and is helping for sure!
Thanks Frank. I could not imagine massaging it as it's slightly tender to the touch. I just took 400mg of ibuprofen, hopefully that will help.
RustyhookerFever or feeling sick? If your but is fatty and you miss, virgin, or pip gear....yup. Welcome to cycles. Hot pad. Research pip and pinning. Read my pip forums. Any fever or bad swelling get to er.
No fever. I did feel like shit today at the gym. I think that might be a result of starting my Aromasin too early? I'm doing 6.25mg every morning.
This is my first week of my first ever cycle of test e, 500mg/week.
RustyhookerRead reply below about that. Crashed estrogen is broken weiner, no gains, depression......Please read read read.
Wait till week 4 to start ur a.i...dont want to crash ur estro..i made the same mistake and once i fixed it i felt alot better..as for the pain, just virgin pip. Bold move pinning ur quad as a first pin..i still get sore pinning quads
Thanks for the reply! I figured that I would start the AI sooner than later with the thinking that it's better to start early and avoid estro symptoms than wait until they appear. Starting tomorrow I'm looking to hold off on the AI until week 3-4.
Not everyone even needs an AI. now guys dont go blasting me on this- its noids new thing too. Its possible you may not need it. If you get sensitive nipples then yes start your low dose 6.25 ed and see if symptoms improve. If no symptoms of high e, wait until you get bloods around week 6. Then go from there. Too much AI ruined the first half of my first cycle.
I thought the same thing..prevent the sides before they start, but not in this case..like rustdog said, no estro no gains...get bloods and continue researching bro.