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I feel compelled here to put my experience with pip, out there . I keep seeing alot of this everywhere I go. So here is my experience .
Almost 4 years ago , after being diagnosed with low t , I started trt , from there I went into cycling , yes I had at least 25+years natty .but when I started oh what a fuck up I was , listening to gym rats , running orals only ,with no ai or consept of what a ai even was , sad but true , hey I worked out in prison more than half my life I only heard of aas , anyway when I got going I thought hey all this pain , and burn , hey its the game ,right thats the game we play , correct ???? No not it isnt and it burns my ass when I here plp say its the game . It is the game for a newbee , and ill be honest im in this going on 4 years and im just getting the true meaning the respect whats pip!!!! Pip is a bad technique, to fast , shaky , etc. What else is pip , bad gear ??? Possible but chances are if your ordering from a top 10 , its not bad gear .
I was this bro that blamed gear , blamed everything but the truth and the truth was I didnt have enough experience to know me !!!
What I mean by this is im sensitive to eo, I cannot use it knots me up , also high ba will do the same , etc , but I was a rookie wtf did I know , I just jumped on ban wagon and blamed everything but the truth.
Now im almost 4 years in and I have 20mg jugs and counless 10mg which I will gladly post a pic of , that I took 1 blast out of , why , I didnt do my homework before , now I have enough exp. So I would like to think, I know I cant use eo, or high ba etc . It wasnt the gear it was me and getting to know me. My last 2 runs , last run trena75 mg / prop75mg. Ed. For 6 weeks no pip, this run im 3 weeks in ,testa125mg /npp62.5 mg ed , no pip!! Why , because I know my body now , I cant use eo, or highba or any of it my last 2 runs had 0 eo,2%ba 15% bb , so when I here its the game , I laugh sorry its not , well its not for me I got my logs , and I got my solvents wrote down from cycles and its not to hard to figure out , .
any experienced vet or advanced user why dont I ever here them , crying aboutm pip.because they man up and dont cry ??? No because they know what solvents in what compound compliment there body ,, well bros at least this is my experience with pip, when I started regulating the solvent s and doing my home work and checking my logs , well it works for me anyway , and for me , I feel this pushed my understanding and my research to next level , and im getting so much more closer to truly getting my moneys worth out of my cucles painlessly , I also found out , another tell with e2 :)) which is a break through but thats for another topic for another post , hope someone gets some good info here pege
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Interesting perspective and experience. +1
I would say most of the newbs on here complaining about pip is because there 1 injecting virgin muscle, in which case it is part of the game, even with Pharma you get a little. And 2- poor technique, first time pinning can be a bit intimidating, I've seen some pretty rugged and rough dudes shake like a little girl as I'm about to pin their Quads... i never had a problem with needles, I,ve been a diabetic since I was 7. No I don't use my meds for lifting, there used to keep me alive! Even now I still get some when I use a new site. I did my calf and holy shit never again. I also think if you buy a 500mg per ml dose you get what you asked for. Most of the people on here serious about what we do. Pro grade body builders who need to run 2-3 grams of oil a week, not so much, so no need for the high test. High dose oil= pip...
I put more in my quads and glute than what people suggest and I never get pip. I've only had pip a few times in my life and that was bad gear once and poor technique.I don't even heat it up like I hear everyone doin. One thing I do after ever pin is a very rough massage in the spot I pinned dig my fingers in and go to town for a few minutes maybe this helps me not experience pip.
Pharma gear......PIP is a rumor. Bathtub brews...PIP is a reality. eo fucks me up too but not as bad as it used to. I stay with the same 3 suppliers or I use my Watson and I avoid PIP. Virgin cyclers that think taking high mg gear will be pip free or anyone who says high mg gear over 400 is pip free is shooting olive oil. I tried a high mg 500 sus once.....twice.....and never again. If that is part of the game then I fkn quit. Who wants to not be able to sit or fkn walk? How does that help your workout? Im with you pege.
Took me just about 4 year , to start seeing the light and I must say its really a good feeling , had a few break throughs lately that just let me step back and smile ::)) like with the solvents , and another with ,e2 ,but like I said thats another post , I will say this tho until we can read us , which only comes with trial and era , everyone must go through it , you will not benefit 100% from ur gear , and ty my friend
RustyhookerExcellent! So true!
Much respect , ty my friend