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Hey there fellow Eroiders... I just want some educated opinions about orals. Ive never done orals before or ever kick started with prop. The reason i wanna take an oral is because i cant see myself pinning four times a week, i know orals are pretty toxic but i think thats the way i wanna go.
So which oral wouldnt be as toxic?
Which one wouldnt give me alot of estro problems.... (more than normal when running a cycle)?
Which could help me gain size and strength and also help thin out my waste?
Im 25 6'4 247 lbs 13% bf
first cycle was only test
2nd was a test with eq
Im really hesitant in doing these orals... but like i said cant see my self pinning 4 times a week.
i want to run a test e 500-600 a week with mast e 300-400 a week... it also my first time using mast... so if someone could just guide me in the right direction it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys! and gals!
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Test E is available in 250mg and Mast E is available in 300mg. I'm not a math teacher but that equals a 3cc shot once a week if you want. If you're unsure about running orals then why bother? Test and mast are a beautiful thing together. No need for the other shit on a third cycle.
Ace VenturaNicholas, you should just get your old lady to pin you. It's not as bad that way, and then you could do the prop kicker.
These type of questions are always hard because you simply don't know how your going to react to a new drug. If you are trying to add mass while at the same time lean out your in a tougher predicament even still, if your trying to add more than one compound at once your in an ever deeper water still. Logic to me would dictate that a compound that is weak on the androgenic side would be the safest bet, say oxandrolone for instance. Me personally, i would go oxymethylone and just really watch my sugar and sodium intake and eat super clean all around. In all honesty though your goals are simply too lofty for a second cycle in my opinion and short of having a myostatin deficiency or getting into gh AAS is really just going to add another complication into your recomping, i mean i would be amazed if you acheived your goals n this manner as much as you might like and would be happy to see it. In all honesty though you would probably be better served by recomping naturally and going into a lean bulker with a base that is trimmed more to your liking. The more you can place success or failure on the shoulders of your diet the better off you are
nobellabsmmmmm. So you want to do gain size (bulk) but at the same time thin your waste...
I think you need to pick one or the other. Bulking and getting a smaller waist at the same time is just a fantasy for most of us... except a few freaks of nature...
I would recommend to concentrate on size first.. and then lean down to have the body you want..
Bulking does not mean that you have to eat anything on site. You will control the fat gain with your diet and use a good estrogen blocker.
My fav stack for bulking is still:
test deca dbol
dbol for 4-5 weeks....
safe & efficient.....
I agree, I envy those who gain 25lbs and lose 2 inches on their waste. Haven't figured out how to do that one yet. That cycles the bread and butter for bulking but ops not ready for that yet. Test dbol and a solid diet would be plenty.
hmmm.... thats a toughy... id think id go with the oral... with my test...
I think that idea is more suited towards your goals. Did you get blood work done after your last cycle?
no.... i really should have.... all i did was give blood twice.... im going to this time.... before and after.
probably next week or two when i get my fatigue day... i dont plan on running this cycle for a good month or two... just getting ready and reading the forums and stuff
How long was your last cycle and how long has it been since your finished pct?
i dont trust google. i did look it up... but id rather ask some one with experience.... first hand use..
The toxicity is exaggerated in the common orals, not taking about exotic shit like oral tren, superdrol etc. the toxicity on those are spot on. But the basics dbol anadrol winny var tbol if you run them in normal doses, work proper liver protection and only for a brief amount of time you shouldn't have problems. If your goal is size without estrogen problems and the least toxicity id go with tbol. These questions can all be answered by googling.
Scratch all that, one new drug per cycle. Pick mast or an oral not both. If you you get sides you'll have no idea what's causing It.
and yes im a wuss.. needles scare the shit out of me.... i appreciate your input sir thank you very much