I would love to tell u that steroids are the answer to that, but I agree below diet, diet, diet and then genetics dictates the factors. Cardio as well, but even your fat burning leaners like winny and anavar still seem to work better if your bf% is already low. Steroids are as they say "Sports enhancing" drugs which means they assist you not create miracles overnight. I get pissed when I hear someone declare we cheated because we used the "juice". To me whats the difference in taking large quantities of creatine that claims to have fat burning proprties....Yeah right!! LOL Not to mention the kidneys, GI upset, Liver stresses it causes in a very short period...U see my point? There are plenty of clean steroids when used properly will yield good clean muscle without the nasty sides. There is a price with everything as they say. I would never use any steroid without test long ester first off. Now arnold swears by primobolan and I do too but you have to use larger mg and for a longer period of time to yield quality muscle so it gets expensive, but you get what you pay for. 14-16wks is a good strong cycle in which EQ, primobolan, var begin to really show their colors and perm gains as well. Of course if you do not pct correctly you can end up losing a chunk of it. The key to a great, quality cycle is how you end it with a PCT. i hoped my lil tidbit helped u out. Thanks for listening