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im a beginner

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Been in the gym for a few months now did 2 cycles of pharmavol25 need good input on orals are they worth my time I made good gains on it im interested in injectables but dont have enough knowledge on them what would be my best way to go

dough-boy's picture

Last cycle emded sept 30th took milkthistle during cycle and still taking took nothing else no liver pains or anything

TheFlash85's picture

get yourself, some nolvadex and clomid asap, run a proper p.c.t mate. your most likely shutdown. go get blood tests, and see your dr.

vhman's picture

Just because you don't have "liver pains or anything" doesn't mean you don't have liver problems. Pain or no pain really doesn't mean anything. You need to get blood tests done on your liver enzymes and on your hormone levels as well. That is the only way to know your liver and hormone status. Just search on the site where/how to get them done. You need to do this BEFORE you think about doing anything else. Best of luck.

dough-boy's picture

Had blood work done tuesday got results thismorning and everythings normal thankfully

vhman's picture

Glad to hear it. Post the results and get some feedback. If you want to propose a proper cycle, put that up as well and get some quality and accurate feedback from the very knowledgeable members here. Glad you're here and willing to learn.

TheFlash85's picture

when did you last run the pharmavol???? that is a harsh prohormone as it is two compounds stacked together, it is trendione stacked with epistane, epistane has anti estrogenic properties and gyno fighting abilities, so if it wasn't so long ago, you may still be able to fix your self up, im assuming you didn't run ancillaries or pct, and you definatley didn't run test, please elaborate on what you have done and when, and maybe you can be saved in time!

dough-boy's picture

Last cycle ended sept 30th took milkthistle during cycle and still taking no liver pains are anything like that

dough-boy's picture

30 -195lbs-5'7 and its been 6 months now trained for a couple of years in my younger 20's just getting back into it

mwagner630's picture

what are your stats? age, weight, height, body fat percentage, how long you been training? lets start there

finafan's picture

Best thing for you to do is research. Oral only cycle is not smart.Tons of great stuff on this site. Just look in the forum under the Community button at top of screen. Read this 1st.The guy that wrote it is an amazing person that has helped a ton of people by writing it. http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/are-you-ready-...