High Tren/Low Test -OR- High Test/Low Tren
Been doing some research lately and have seen quite a bit of discussion of guys running high tren cycles with low test! I am currently on an off period, and I'm planning the next future cycle!
History:
1st cycle: Methyl-S and Tren-e By: Iron labs (both oral prohormones)
2nd cycle: 500mg Test-e (week 1-12) / 20/20/40/40 Dbol (week 1-4)
3rd cycle: 500mg Test-e (week 1-16) / 500mg EQ (week 1-14)
4th cycle: ???
Height: 5' 10"
Before: 152 lbs (12-14%bf i would think)
After: 200lbs (15% bf, haven't ever had it read)
Arms: Before- 14"(on a good day) After- 17"
Calves" Before-12.5" After- 15.5"
Waist: before-30-31" After- 34"
Diet: pretty dirty, but been doing better...need to clean it up!! (at least im honest)
I am hoping to compete in a couple of years if I can get my weight up aprox. 30more lbs or sooo....That way Ill come in at a 205lb contest weight...Any help getting there would be great!
I just started HGH...I am starting with 2iu for 100iu, then 3iu for 100iu, and then 4iu for the next 300 or soo.....
Just let me know what you think a good future cycle would be..I am definitely going to include tren in the next one which is why I am asking the question!
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I always run my Tren cycles high Tren low test because for me it keeps the sides down.
So after hearing from a few guys I have decided to reconsider jumping on the Tren like every other guy in my gym and continue to grow until I can grow no longer without Tren!! I do think that using NPP may be the next best idea that I could do! so I have prepared a cycle that I will plan to run for 12-14 weeks from now while my receptors are clearing out ....(yes I am still running 2iu of HGH and will continue to do so until I start at which time i will bump to 3 then 4, and remain at 4 for 3-5 months....:)
W1-10: EQ 500mg a week (only have 250mg vials...would do 400 but whatever')
W1-9: Test Enth 500mg a week (Once again only 250mg vials or would run 600mg but whatever')
W1-8: NPP 200mg E3D
I really don't think that I would need a kickstart to the cycle however I am never apposed to throwing some Dbol around! Or should I kick it off with some Test-p???
Let me know what you all think!
*I have posted my typical PCT in replies below...I will continue to run my PCT the same way I always do considering my blood work tells me that It works!
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People that I am referring to, are those like....FCVtec, and OdyOdd...both of these two are open about there cycle choices and both seem to run fairly high Tren with low test...Just thought that I would give examples of what I am talking about.
I would leave the high tren-low test cycles to the most very experienced guys, gain everything you can with everything else first.
X2 You'll have to have a lot of experience under your belt with Tren to gauge what you can and cannot handle. Take it slow
So should i just wait until I'm done growing on normal doses before starting small doses of tren? or should I just make the start with tren now and just keep it low and gradually increase over the next few years...like maybe start with 200mg/week total ??
I appreciate your response....So what do you think that would be a good next approach...stay on test and hope to continue to grow at 500 or would you ever increase dose?
First, I'm a TRT guy, not a BB cycle guy, so you might be better asking someone else,.....but,
You've done a Test / Eq cycle,
Would a Test Prop / NPP cycle be a better opion than Tren??
(NPP being a short ester version of Deca, remember 50% (mg's) more Test than NPP /week,
you will be looking at EOD pinnings, and you shouldn't need a kicker or taper because of the short esters)
If I'm wrong I'm sure my karma will take a beating.
Why not throw together a cycle and post it for feedback. (You can only learn from doing so.)
I like it! So, I will post a new cycle above and see if anyone is willing to respond and shed some light on the area!
Frankieage?
pct plans ?
serms/ai ?
Age: 27yo
PCT: Clomid therapy 50/50/100/100
Nolva 20/20/20/20/40/40 (usually like to run it a bit longer)
HCG throughout cycles and drop it the last two weeks and pick it back up for the first 2 weeks of PCT at a higher dose (500-1000iu 2x week for 2 weeks)
Serms/ai: Serms are included above...I dont really use anything on cycle...never suffer from gyno issues...If i do get an itchy nipple i take nolva for a couple of days and its gone...although I do have Arimidex and Letro on hand just in case something ever bad happened!
jasonhnice response!