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+ 1 Hey nandrolone junkies.

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I absolutely love nandrolone, however, it exacerbates the part of me that likes to procrastinate. Like hard. I was thinking about giving modafinil a shot, also heard that masteron helps curb nandrolone side effects. Just wondering if any of you are the same and if you've found any solution to it.

Petecastiglione's picture

Masteron calms down sides for a lot of things. It gives you the extra dht you might need. I have not tried deca or npp but when the time comes I’d certainly run mast with it

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Steeltoad777's picture

How have you never tried deca or npp? Thats surprising to hear.

randomdude's picture

Pretty sure he’s a high test guy

Nucknfutz83's picture

Anyone ever ran a test/eq/npp cycle? Information and experience greatly appreciated --

hulkman0312's picture

What about npp? Experience and dosages. Thanks

sandman3698's picture

I run npp at the same ratio I do deca. But I also only.use npp as a jump starter to my deca cycle. Never ran a purely npp cycle. Not opposed to it, just a little bit of a pain to have to inject that often for the whole cycle. Ordering a shitload of syringes when I can just do longer esters.

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hulkman0312's picture

Im thinking next cycle test, npp, and mast.

Jspike31's picture

Test/mast/npp is a killer combo!

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hulkman0312's picture

Im going to try it out brother. Any advice?

Jspike31's picture

I run Mast a little higher these days, but when I ran 600/400/400 test/mast/npp it was an awesome cycle. Full, strong, and dry. If I was gonna do it again, which I will be soon, I would probably do 6-750/500-600/500.

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romainesweep's picture

I'm starting this next week. 400/300/200 test/mast/NPP to begin with, might eventually up to 500/400/300 depending how it goes. Looking forward to it

hulkman0312's picture

Sounds good. Thanks brother

sandman3698's picture

Alot of people like it. Only can suggest to just start low and ramp up slow your first time. And the good thing about it, is that it is a short ester so if your not liking it, it will dissipate relatively quick.

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hulkman0312's picture

Right on. I never liked deca much, but then again I blasted the shitboutbgear when I was younger and stupid as hell didn't lnow what I was doing.

kekerino's picture

What doses do you typically run your nand at?

Ever tried tren and deca/npp together?

Trying to dial in my growth phase protocol and will be running npp for first 6 weeks while the deca saturates.

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sandman3698's picture

I've only messed around with adding 70mg a week of tren to my deca bulk cycle once. And honestly, probably will be the last. Didn't do anything bad necessarily but I don't think it was worth the added risks of tren.
And I have to run my ratios at 2:1 test:nandrolone or my dick stops working. And take what I've said in the other posts cautiously because I'm personally not gyno sensitive so running those compounds together wasn't bad for me.
And again my dose is a personal experience one but my cycles typically look like 600test and 300deca.
Have you ever ran it before?

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kekerino's picture

Thanks! The 2:1 test / nand ratio is what I am planning on.

Did you take caber while running nand?

I have not taken nand yet but am no stranger to the 19-nors. I respond quite well to tren and tolerate it at high doses.

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sandman3698's picture

No, I'm honestly a little scared of caber. I heard that stuff is really unhealthy. And I really haven't felt like I needed something that crazy. Sleep gets fucked for a few weeks but eventually get better. I get a little paranoid about my wife cheating but I know what it is, so it goes away relatively quick.
The only 2 that I'm actually worried about trying to correct is
1: I don't give a fuck about money... which my wife doesn't mind.
2: I lose alotta motivation to do anything at work. Which can be a real problem.
Hopefully I can figure out this mast situation and it will help.

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No08's picture

I don’t think it’s ever made me lethargic. It’s helped my joints feel better and it’s made my libido wild but that’s it. Other than GAINS haha.

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Milfpounder's picture

I ran test/npp/mast last year for a little bulker. Was great. Going to do the same thing this year except maybe change out the mast for dhb.. maybe.

Npp makes me very very short tempered would be my only complaint. I ran 500t/200n/300m if I remember right.

kekerino's picture

Were you impressed with the effects of npp at 200mg? The dosing recommendations I see for nands is all over the place.

I tolerate tren well at high doses, so I am thinking the same would likely apply to npp / deca.

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sandman3698's picture

Ots actually kind of weird to sort of piggy back on your guys' convo. I get alot of the stereotypical side associated with tren with Deca. Tren just makes me super intense and kind of annoying.

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kekerino's picture

That is pretty interesting. I don't get tren rage or trensomnia so I've been expecting that deca/npp would be similar. Guess it's not so cut and dry.

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Milfpounder's picture

Hard to say honestly, because it was my first time trying it and I have no other dose experience to compare it to. I got good recovery, still had sore shoulder and very noticeable gains, and none of the sexual or lethargic sides everyone seems to get, but that all could purely be attributed to the overall anabolic/androgenic load of everything together as well.

I will definitely be running it higher next time. The one very very noticeable side I got was basically looking for confrontation, which is pretty alarming.

kekerino's picture

How was water retention? I assume mast probably helps a lot, along with dose not being super high.

Do you get the same confrontation problems on tren too?

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Milfpounder's picture

I've never tried tren. I'm the proud owner of quite a bit, but I doubt I'll ever try it. I would love to, but I'm naturally kind of short fused. I can't help it.

So the responsible guy in me will probably never take the chance of losing my shit on tren. Especially considering how npp affects me.

Didnt notice any water retention at all honestly. I honestly think a lot of that boils down to diet. I was/am eating clean. I think a lot of guys that have water retention problems easily overlook their shitty diet, salt intake etc. I'm sure there's outliers, but id bet most of it is self inflicted.

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Yeah I've been taking deca/npp for a good few years now. This is just been the side effect I've been just trying to deal with but since I got some deca heading my way, I was hoping to figure this out before hand. This is really my only issue with this shit that has become intolerable. I get the other mental sides too like thinking my wife is cheating, or paranoid, scatter brained and all that. But that shit I can talk myself out of pretty easy. I do most of my work by myself so its a little too easy for me to just whip out my phone and scroll around.

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Milfpounder's picture

Masteron generally has me in a good mood, with a noticable boost in libido. But I have never noticed increased motivation from it that I would be able to attest to. I've never tried anything that has given any drive to be honest....

I'm still searching for that elusive compound that makes me work harder, longer, look better and be a better person, better lifter. Better gay lover for you guys etc etc... lemme know when you find it

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And I'm not necessarily looking for a substance to GIVE me motivation..... unless anyone knows any that aren't work place tested for... I'm looking for something that helps stop nandrolone from robbing what little I have.

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sandman3698's picture

.... I think thats either a white Columbian powder or a certain ADD medication that I can't say....
Edit: I get drug tested so those are a no go.

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Milfpounder's picture

Hahaha METH METH METH METH METH METH

Jockstrap's picture

Masteron is dht. Test deca mast has been a standard for decades. I will try to find the brother that ran mast and provi together. Viking and he made great results. Im beat tired but @press1 will know. Strong brother uk style. Brain farts...ughh

600test 400deca 300mast with 25provi. Viking always stated 25 provi until hitting 1000mg test.

sandman3698's picture

I gotta play around with my ratios then. I did do test,deca,mast in the past but was feeling like the mast wasn't agreeing with me so I cut it. Been doing just test, deca, with either dbol or adrol,... not often but sometimes tbol, and when I'm at work, I just cannot give a fuck. Heard that about mast recently so I thought I'd ask here before playing with it again. Guess I'll just have to start super low with it and adjust accordingly.

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Mback76's picture

I like 500 test 400 mast 300 deca. I found that the mast there levels me out, raises libido and gives a sense of well being. But yea, everyone is different and this is our science experiment on ourselves.

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Jockstrap's picture

Chem are chems and unfortunately they're not always accurate or even not real. Mast used to be cheap and not worth the cost of bunk gear but its pricey now. Folks get greedy.

Don't give a fuck.... prolactin high will cause that emotion. E2 can as well but when I'm in a stop where I'm numb or don't care....prolactin. easy blood test since e2 raises prolactin. Lowering e2 lowers pprolactin like a sea saw. On tren I hit a spot where I was close to orgasm but wouldn't pop. 100% prolactin..lol. sorry to ramble....

sandman3698's picture

Pramipexole was the name of it! Didn't like it.

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Mback76's picture

I recently ran into that issue while on tren aswell. Total vibe killer. 2 weeks of that shit had my wife questioning if something was wrong with her regardless of her knowing what I was running. Prlactin was up close to 30, 1.5mg caber over 9 days crashed prolactin down to 2

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Jockstrap's picture

30??? ??? No joke because its sorta funny but up over 25 and talk about odd cry weird shit. Caber and couple days....fixed.

E2 raises and prolactin follows.

Mback76's picture

Yea 30, TikTok vids were making me a little emotional lol went and got bloodwork the next day.

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sandman3698's picture

Haha, no worries, I love the ramble. Orgasms get so goddamn weird on this shit. When I've taken too much, I'll nut before the actual orgasm! Appreciate the response. I'll retry the mast for the dht purposes and order me some aromasin. I've been taking p5p but I honestly don't notice a difference. I've also been trying low dose letro but still just feel aloof. also tried this other stuff thats a Parkinsons medication but the name is blanking on me. That shit killed my sleep.

So right on, I'll add back in masteron low and slow, get some aromasin and I'd also like to try modafinil at some point. Just to see.

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Jockstrap's picture

Way too many chemicals bro.

sandman3698's picture

Lol yeah I didn't mean I was going to take all that shit at once. Tried prami one cycle, sucked so I threw it away. Took p5p throughout last cycle, didn't really notice anything and tried the letro towards the end. And again, not sure if I really felt anything. So my plan is to try the mast out, play with the doses, and then the cycle after that play with the aromasin.
Sorry I should've been clearer.

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