Help with 2nd cycle
Hi I just joined. I have some questions about Deca and HCG , maybe some of the more experienced users can help me out.
A little background info:
-Age 28, been training for 10 years
-6ft 220 lbs about 15% bf
- 1st cycle was last year, 500 mg a week of Sustanon for 12 weeks/50 mg d-bol for 6 weeks/ ran proper PCT etc. Gained about 25 lbs kept about 10 lbs
So for my next cycle I'm planning:
week 1-4 50 mg d-bol ED
week 1-10 300 mg Deca a week
week 1-12 250 mg Test Enan a week
HCG
week 2-7 500 ius a week
week 8-14 1000 ius a week
week 14-18 2000 ius a week
Arimidex 12.5 mg EOD
Caber on hand
PCT
week 14-18 Nolvadex and clomid for 4 weeks...40/100 for 2 weeks, then 20/50 for 2 weeks
Ok so my questions are as follows:
1) Will using HCG prevent me from being shutdown hard? I have heard stories of people using deca and their test levels never returning to normal, even after PCT.
2) Is caber used in PCT or just in the case of progesterone induced gyno? Would it be better to replace nolvadex with caber in PCT?
3) Will using HCG prevent drastic hormonal changes during PCT? My first cycle I had bad acne and it got worse during PCT. I want to try to avoid this or minimize it as much as possible
4) At what point do I stop taking Adex? Do I continue using it through PCT? I did not use it my first cycle.
Ok sorry for the long post! Tried to be as thorough as possible. I appreciate any advice anyone has. Thanks!
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Relax guys...I just entered in some crap when I created my profile. The stats in the post are true.
EDIT...if u use caber it is continued 2-3 wks into PCT. But, Rusty is right....a simple test cycle with oral and/or TP will give u good results. Look into using proviron to unbind test from SHBG and increase free test.
hCG is stopped one week prior to beginning PCT. And, it is usually administered the last 6-8 wks of the cycle and dosed 500iu/wk in divided doses. Yes it does help in recovery making PCT easier when cycling 19-nors.
You have to prevent estro rebound with adex after your last injection and before PCT starts.
So, dont use adex during PCT.
Now...all of these answers have a rationale that can be researched on here. And i believe when u are ready to cycle a 19-nor, your posted cycle plan will have substance and look legit with the correct administration lengths and dosage ratios for deca and test.
Look into PCT using Aromasin/Nolva/Clomid.
If a 19-nor is used to cycle, Toremifene might be a better alternative than Nolva for PCT.
RustyhookerI'm thinking deca is too much for a second. I wouldn't start big stacking early when simple test/prop or test/oral is plenty.
(Edit) Please man up and post some real stats. Smh
Welcome!
I would drop both dbol and deca for your second cycle. Increase Test E to 400 mg - 500mg weekly, pinned twice. (250 each).
Your adex dose is outrageously high. Drop to .25 EOD. (a quarter of a mg). You can stop with your last pin.
HCG will help you recover faster and prevent testicular atrophy. 250iu.
PCT should consist of clomid 100/100/50/50 and novla 40/20/20/20. Start 14 days after last pin.
RustyhookerOur forums are based upon a safe and real cycle. If the op doesn't give honest info then you do not just drop anything on a forum!!!
NOTE THE DESCREPANCIES IN STATS!
^^^ I didn't think anyone would BS about something like that. Sorry, I don't look up everyone's profile to double check stats.
I was only trying to help. The question seemed legit.
RustyhookerTry to read the replies. Sometimes it fills in blanks or makes a bigger picture. We get a Lotta kiddies pretending to be older.
You are saying that your stats are: age 28, 6ft, 220 lbs but..................... The stats on your page since you became a member on June 19th 2015 says that you are: age 36, 5ft 6in, 185 lbs?????
Can you explain what your real stats are because I dont want to give advise to a kid or someone who has no business taking gear!
Nice catch! I was going to chime in but now, I'm out.
Good eye bro...thumbs up
Rustyhooker+2 ^^^^^^
help is only as good as the honesty of the op