Help Cutting Prop 250 with grape seed oil.
Hey guys, so I have some prop 250 from a supplier on here and this stuff is harsh. I tried doing just .2ml (about 50mg) ED and it still very very painful and gave me the worst test flu I've ever had. I contacted them and he said that it's been known to take down even the most seasoned vets. Basically it's rough stuff. I wanted to cut it cause I don't want to waste it. But I'm not positive on the amount of grapeseed oil to use and I was hoping someone here could help me out.
If I take 1ml of prop 250 and add 1ml of oil it's then at 125. That makes sense to me. But if it needs to be cut further that's where I get a little confused.
Would adding 2ml of oil make it 83.3mg/ml or 62.5mg/ml? Or is my math completely off?
Thanks in advance for you help with this!
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There is a lot of good advice below. Here's something that works for people really well, add an equal amount vitamin B12 (injectable obviously) into the same syringe. So if you're doing 1 mL of X add 1 ml of vitamin B12.
I also use vitamin B12 to mix my hCG.
Hope this helps.
I've never tried the b12 trick. Ive done it subq and I was amazed at how badly it burned. Is it different pinning it IM?
I've never had B12 burn. Injecting small gauge needles can make it burn if you do it too fast. Maybe that's your problem?
Maybe... I used a slin needle and pinning subQ. I've never tried IM injections with b12. I do what to grab some b12 for other reasons too so I'll give it a shot for diluting the prop 250. Thanks bud!
Sure thing. And remember the smaller the needle the slower you should be going with your injection. It should take you about 30 seconds, just as a reference.
AnonThis has nothing to do with cutting the compound with oil. Ive used over dosed prop a lot and this is just the method that helps me with pip. I love high dose prop. I usually do not ever have injection pain. From any compound. Prop 250 however is different. Ha! Hurts every time. I've never cut it though. I have found that heating it makes a huge difference. I use a couple of different methods. The one I believe works the best is holding the vial under running water (with the water as hot as it will get) for 3-4 minuets. After I withdraw from the bottle I repeat this with the pin. This gives me the least pain from a 250 inject. Except for pinning it with EQ. I'm NOT SUGGESTING you use EQ simply to decrease PIP!! I like running EQ but do not care for long estered test. I always run high dose prop with EQ and I've found the 2 mixed together in the same pin with heating them makes it extremely bearable.
There's not really a science to it. It's just a matter of how much you need to dilute it to match your tolerance. If it were me, I'd start with 50/50 (1/2 cc GSO and 1/2 cc prop). Then adjust as you need it. Might wanna just stick to pinning glutes and quads if it's harsh like you say. Smaller muscle groups have lower tolerance for pip on me.
Yeah I see what you're saying. I guess I was just trying to pre mix it all so I wouldn't have to draw from both every time... I guess that would be the easiest thing though. Thanks for the advice!
I wouldn't dilute it In the vial. The time it takes to do it in the syringe isn't a lot... Plus it lets you control the strength per ml. Once you start getting into multi compound stacks, you'll be looking for ways to consolidate
Yeah I see what you're saying. I'll just keep it simple... Thanks for helping to straighten all this out for me.
A small % of people 8-10%,,have pain with TEST PROP.
You can cut it wit steril oil(s)
30yrs old, 210lbs, 8%bf. Been training since high school. Cycling for 3 years. Usually prop and whinny but have thrown in tbol from time to time.
Yes oil is sterile and in sealed vial. Goal is to maintain muscle while cutting.
Thanks for the quick reply
RustyhookerProp 250. So lets look at chem math first. The prop is 250/ml. So if you use 1cc of prop and add 1cc oil you still have 250Mg of test in 2cc of oil. You're diluting the pain with more oil but you're still injecting 250Mg of test. Thats a huge dose! Back to math in a second.
You're cutting from 8% bf which is already super low. Cutting you know is 100% food. Just enough gear to preserve muscle.
Cutting with sterile oil is do-able. It would be a lot easier cut with mast prop. It'll dry, carve and harden you. It'll assist in estro as well.
So you'll have to run the math. 125eod is decent for cutting by 8Weeks. Half a cc is 125mg. So try adding 1/4cc sterile oil and if pip is cool then you're set. I'd run the mast/prop combo. 100eod mast prop is nice. You can match it at 125eod if you choose. So typical mast prop is 100Mg/cc. So 1cc mast and half cc of prop eod.
Pct 2 days after last combo pin.
Suggest as many pin points as possible because even with no pip you'll get pin sore. Click my emoticon....cluck my forums....So You Got Pip is a good read on techniques etc but several authors.
Spotinjection.com
Blood test week 3 will help dial in estro.
Yeah I've done a mast/prop cycle and so far mast is the only drug that makes my hair fall out and bad. I loved the hardening effects but it just wasn't worth the price of admission for me.
I was thinking of cutting the prop with sterile oil and then pinning 50-75mg ED. I agree 250 is huge. If I cut it with oil to get 125mg/ml then pinned .5ml ED that puts in it 62.5mg ED correct? I don't mind ED pinning at all. In fact I kind of like it... I know that's probably odd but it's the truth! Hahaha.
Does my math look right on the 62.5mg per .5ml?
Rustyhooker.5ml is 125. So .25 or 1/4ml is your Ed dose at the 62.5
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Another alternative would be, if it's a kicker, spread out the longer ester oils so they're both pinned together. GSO and CSO is pretty common on those.
RustyhookerVery true! Good blending technique and then into simple long Esters. His bio says runner so he could blood test to keep drier when dialing in ai if needed
RustyhookerPlease post stats, goals and priors. Sterile cutting oil?