posted Mon, 04/25/2016 - 03:25
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GW 50156 on Cycle-Strength Loss???
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I'm 6 weeks in to a basic test/drol cycle. Strength and weight has been going up steadily every workout. I do BJJ and read a lot about the endurance benefits of GW so I added in 20 mgs a day last week. As of the last 7 days my strength hasn't gone up at all and everything seems to have come to a stop. Anybody experience any strength losses with GW during a cycle??? Or could this just be coincidence that I plateaued when I added it in. I stopped taking it but would love to continue for the cardio benefits. Any input would be appreciated.
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As I understand GW1516 it was shown to increase performance in endurance events, especially when combined with AICAR. As far as I know the mechanism by which it does this is essentially making the muscles less dependent on glycogen and increasing fat oxidation. Muscle we use for lifting and gaining strength use carbs for energy, basically. So if the muscles energy metabolism is switching to fat (ie what's used for endurance) we probably won't see increases in strength. Is this the GW1516 or AICAR I a combination, I don't know but if they both contribute to the endurance benefit as stated then it's very possible to at least stall on strength gains.
Bodybuilders have been known to use it in contest prep since they want to lose as much fat as possible, and don't really care about being strong. Other benefits are reduced Cholesterol levels and be beneficial for type 2 diabetes.
I think I got that all right, but that's the general idea .
What is the entire cycle like? What have you gained so far? Have you adjusted diet and exercise since the beginning? What are your goals?
I think test+drol cycle neutralizes the effect of GW 50156 to zero.
Evidence to back it up?
Several way for increase strength and endurance which I feel distinctly : glycogen level + hemoglobine level. On drol+test cycle (drol : 150-200mg ED) my hemoglobine level reached values 180-200... This is extreme level and I am sure that no other drugs can not increase its addition. Besides it is dangerous due to increased density of blood. About glycogen level the same : on drol+test cycle water retention is very high. One of this reason is hydrophilic charachter of glycogen (1 gr glycogen need aproximatelly 2-3 gr water). And expirience from my friends in BB and PWL: none of them have not take a clear increase to the existing results with the addition of GW 50156. Except were the runners only...