Freezer TNE Test?
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I had some TNE and Test Cypionate that I was unsure of--bunk, or not.
As far as I know (and I've asked this question to a couple guys on here; even a couple sources on their Source Discussion pages, like "EmPee"), TNE is so susceptible to crashing when cold, its actually normal. I have also read that Test Cyp is susceptible to the same thing, but not nearly as much. So, I put those two in the freezer. The TNE is bunk, according to my freezer test. Looks like nothing more than clear, flowing oil--Not a crystal in site. The Cyp? Not sure. It affected it, but didn't really do so enough to be definitive. It thickened, which is normal. Looks a little funkier than simply thickened, but only labmax and bloods will tell for sure, and I'm not going to the trouble and/or expense for one vial. With Test Enanthate, I really don't know if it would be much use. It may be, but its outside of my knowledge.
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arpitkakkar1For any biological test ultra low freezer used as lab equipment to keep samples to prevent from damage. it work on low temperature up to -80 to -85 degree centigrade.
http://newmeditech.com/cold-storage-equipment/ultra-low-freezer/
The freezer test is not the way to tell if gear is real or not, you realize you can mix sugar in vegetable oil put it in the freezer and it will crystallize, does that all of a sudden make it test? I've put test cyp straight from the pharmacy in the freezer and it never crashed, I've had gear arrive in the cold that crashed and I've put gear that I had blood test to prove was real in the freezer and it never crashed, point being...the "freezer test" is total bullshit and is completely pointless I mean come on think of how stupid that is "oh let me put my testosterone in the freezer to see if it's real or not lol"
I have read that If EO is used the gear will not crash in the freezer. I know most sources have to use EO in their TNE. I have only seen maybe two sources that offered an EO free TNE. Now on the Cyp unless it was a high mg should of crashed. EO should only be used if it's 350mg+ I believe. Anything lower can be held in suspension with just BA and BB. Usually in the winter time sources stop brewing any Cyp Ester compound due to the cold causing it to crash.
First off let me clear the misconception for yall, freezing gear or the "Freezer test" doesn't prove anything, if you place gear in a freezer and it crashes, well all the freezer did was aid in its process, it will not cause gear that's been correctly brewed with right amounts of solvents and co-solvents... If the gear is unstable, it will speed up the process of it crashing, but if the gear(depending on which it is of course because melting point differences, like Deca and EQ and what not, test E... Good luck getting those to crash lol, which is a good thing obviously) now for the test Cyp. Well test Cyp is a very unstable steroid, it can stay perfectly well suspended and the next day you can simply find it crashed... It's a pain in the ass to brew, although very much like test E, it's very unlike it when it comes to manufacturing... It's just unstable that's all... Btw it's not a pain in the ass but could give some trouble... Anyhow not getting into brewing subject, now the TNE, it's a suspension right? Or do you have a solution...? If it's water based, you more then likely will indeed (usually should even if micronized) see it's seperation, where the TNE will settle and the solvent and water will seperate and itll be clear that it has seperated, totally normal..... Simply microwave a cup of water for like 2 min. And once it's done, put the TNE in the hot water up to its neck line, don't submerse it, leave it in there for a bit, shake it up, do it again, then draw it out and hit it right after you've shakeb it up, usually one will have to or is even desired to do this everytime anyhow... Cheers.
You didn't clear up anything.
You mostly re-stated what I said. I appreciate the effort but you assume that I asked for a how-to on uncrashing gear. I should've maybe said TNE instead of Gear in the title, but oh well.
Tommygunn1980I received two cyp from a top source one came crashed bec of the cold while the other in the same pack wasnt. So I put the other in the freezer just to see and nothing I guess I get one good cyp the other oil. Last time I order from that source.
RustyhookerIt's easier to find a real source so there's less hassle. Or find pharma.
It seems easy. It took me some time. It's easier to find bunk gear than pharma until one has learned. Hell, I think I t's even easier to find a real hooker than a rusty one!