posted Thu, 09/08/2011 - 07:32
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What's up fellas, so this is gonna be my first cycle. I have 2 10ml vials of test 400 and 100 dbols. So my question is should i pin 2x a week 1ml each time or 3x a week with the 2ml. Should I use hcg on the cycle with arimidex or is that overkill. Thanks for your time and I appreciate your input.
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tread-mWith a first timer I'll shoot my 2cents like this. Discounting the prop altogether being only 25mg I would hit twice a week at 3/4 cc's per. Plenty for a first timer if you're doing the work and dialing in the diet. That gives you over 500 mg weekly for age (taking out the prop factor) and those esters stack so each week is a higher concentration in the body. Run your jumpstart at the end and HCG is up to you. I'm not necessarily on the HCG bandwagon but I know many are so if you like the sound of it then run it. Building whether bulking,hardening or cutting is eating. If you don't have the diet in place for the goal you will waste a lot of time and end up back here in a year trying to figure out what you did wrong. As to the dbol, I personally would save it for a future cycle, you're new and you will respond very well if working the program and you will have to up your game later so take your time and enjoy it and do it right. If you don't have a diet plan or a trainer to make you one, go to Jaycutler.com bottom right tab is "blueprints". click it and go to the time of year that fits your goal. If wanting to cut and get lean follow what he's doing now going into competition, if wanting to bulk go back to Dec- july ish....you cannot eat those volumes without HGH but you can moderate a plan to fit you based on the specific food in the plan. Keep your goals in terms of total weight gain reasonable, if you just try to pack on a bunch of weight you will not get to keep it, the quality weight will hang around. working the plan post cycle and keeping diet in check with good heavy lifting will make you a success in your goals....Good luck
thanks man that sounds like good advice.
Tread is A LOT smarter than he looks. Lol.
Jab.
tread-mTRUE DAT!
Haahaa! All BS'ing aside, you do give solid advice.
Jab.
tread-mMaster ....you need to put your stats and age up, to give you cycle advice, especially first time without any knowledge of size and age etc is like a doctor doing surgery on you not knowing what the surgery is for....just dig and hope to find something! lol Age is a huge component, if you are 60 then maybe the cycle is right, if you are 20 then it may not be. Always put up your information when asking questions pertaining to you specifically....Thanks
age:29 weight:205 bf:15% thanks
Are you saying your gonna run 800mg a week and want to know if splitting it into 3 weekly pins is better than 2 weekly pins for stable blood level reasons? Sorry- im a little slow.
Jab.
Sorry for the confusion 3x 800mg total,for the test p. You think i need the hcg?Thanks for your time.
You mentioned running hcg and arimidex together maybe being overkill. They do two totally different things in the body. Arimidex is a estrogen blocker, it will help with bloat (not a big issue with prop) and gyno. I myself run 1/2 mg arimidex ED while on cycle - works great. HCG will keep your "boys" producing test while on cycle (Prop will shut natural test down pretty quick) as long as u keep taking it. Most tend) to wait till end of cycle to run HCG (unless on a very long cycle, then run it during).Please understand HCG alone isn't a proper pct, look into adding clomid and or nolva. Hope this helps.
Jab.
Thanks for the advice I planned on running a proper pct just waiting for my order.I don't give a shit about bloat but definitley want to avoid gyno.Is nolva better for gyno or adex, and I will have letro on hand.I was gonna run the hcg one month before pct at 250iu 2x a week. Does that about sound right?
I think 3x a week at 2ml might be a little much,.........for almost any cycle.