posted Sat, 03/22/2025 - 15:29
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Deca/Tren
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Seems common consensus is that running deca and tren together is asking for problems. Also seems that common consensus is that Deca stays in your system for a full 6 months.
Does this mean that one should not run tren until being off Deca for a full 6 months?
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Tren ace and NPP js one of my favorite combos. Nice dose of mast. Wouldnt recommend it if you priorities health. NPP and Mast is great by itself. Everyone reacts differently so id know how ya react to any compound on its own before ya try both.
I hate waiting for deca to kick in. I don't like running long cycles. For joint support I like 150-200mg a week of deca. For putting mass on i prefer NPP. Tren is so strong, I havent run it in a while. I used to but... if i could go back in time, probably wouldn't use it at all, or... I would go over 200mg a week. I find its still very effective at that dose, and I don't experience much of any sides.
You don’t need to run tren and deca together.
What people lose hindsight of, is that the length you can stay on cycle is what matters the most. Running tren/deca for 6-8 weeks or however long you can tolerate it is shit compared to what you can do w deca by itself (assuming test too). Give me a deca test stack for 20 weeks over deca tren for 8 weeks any day of the week.
Tren is fun, but it’s best used (in my experience) when cutting or at a super low dose on a bulk (50mg~ week)
I’ve ran tren, but never again. The strength gains were immense, but the side effects aren’t worth it imo. I have a short temper and tren sent me off the rails at all times.
anvilPersonally don't run them, although I have tried and failed. Double nor19 means quadruple the issues for me LOL. You would have to see for yourself.
Hard to answer without pix and your priors/goals. Doesnt look by replies that theres real world advice so far and that is good without full disclosure
For full disclosure I am 37, 5’ 10” and 230lbs at about 15% bf. Been lifting for a long time, currently on the second cycle of my life, decided to blast and cruise as my natural test is going to drop rapidly soon anyways. Currently blasting but planning for future blasts.
My current regiment contains deca and I want to try tren sometime and I’m trying to gauge how long I need to wait after last pin of deca before I can do my first pin of tren. Obviously I will be cruising between blasts so there will be around 12 weeks of just test only and, if Deca stays in your system for 6 months and could cause issues, I’ll use dht derivatives next blast and save the tren for the blast after that so I have a full 6 months between if needed.
Judging by the replies below there are actually lots of people who mix Deca or npp with other NOR19 so I guess it’s more of a word of caution and less of a golden rule to not mix NOR19 compounds.
2nd cycle is imo not a good idea to start mixing big stacks. As a newer roider you should do well on simple cycles a long time.
Yes ive mixed 2 nors quite a few times. Its not going to boost the mass cutter combo like it seems on paper. Ive bulked and cut with npp as example. The food dictates as does gym. Hope it helps!
Spring time imo look at dhb. Lower test and dhb. 300 test and 400dhb. Its pretty impressive if youre not pip prone. I blend so theres no pip.
My problem is that I’m 37 and I feel like I’m getting old so I want to gain as much muscle as possible while my connective tissues can still handle lifting heavy.
I’m trying to find something to add slabs of muscle as quick as possible while still being safe and running relatively low dosages so I tried Deca and I’m curious about Tren because of all the hype.
I’ll definitely look into DHB.
its historical non sense (from reading)
damn near every source offers either TEST P/NPP/Tren Ace or Test E/Deca/Tren E blends
why would any one compound things together if not going to work for fair amount of people?
deca can be tested for alot long than 6 months. ive read 18months after injection can still show on tests, that does not mean it is active or truly assisting in a PED regard
Damn where have i been? Who offers those blends? I’ve seen cut mix (Tren/mast/test) and Bulk (Test/NPP) but never Tren/Deca or Tren/NPP.
there are more than one that offer them on eroids, along with the ones you mentioned. I think the TriTren blends are way worse than mixing Tren Ace and NPP. Deca used in therapeutic levels is great for (my) joints, Adding 5-6 weeks of Tren Ace dossent affect me any more than a heavy deca dose. yes its different , but not like slamming huge doses of each carelessly.
I’d definitely like to check out a Tren/NPP mix, like I said, I haven’t seen that offered anywhere? Who has it?
Bro one of the top sources have a tren mast test npp blend. The one with the brown vials. It gave some weird name i forgot. If u don't know who I'm talking about and really wanna know dm me
Oh I see now thanks
No doubt bro.
Good thing I don't get ped tested cuz I definitely add deca to my trt when cruising. I just never found a need for large doses of it. Heard good and bad. The older I get the less I want to try lol. But totally agree about the tritren blends. I tolerate tren ace so well that I've never even bothered with enth. It's so easy to switch dosing or pull out completely.
I am right there with you. I enjoy DECA. I run often varying on dose, never crazy high as it drives some of my negative blood markers. I do pull it completely for a while (current) , recently have learned the warmer weather is when im best suited with the "therapeutic" dose as I run a little hotter with any NOR19. going to try and run sust/primo through spring and summer , maybe sprinkle in the ACE if I get to bored and want to remember why I pulled it hahaha
No doubt, I get the same temp issue with nors. Careful with that ace lol. It won't let u forget
yes, more than likely ill stick with DHB if I add to the SUST/Primo. the diet for summer is hard on TREN for me. must be the mental/emotional eating lmao.
Yeah, a 16 or so week prep has been run with deca and tren no test by some pros. If u ask me, sounds like a metric ton of mental problems and no ding a ling jingling. No thanks lol.
Why don't u try doing deca and tren your self start lower dose and forth and see how it works for U Joe blow might be sensitive to prolactin more than John dick. Who can run npp tren at high mg with no caber no mast no a.i. and be good. U might be a job but you'll never know until u try bro. Take things with heed not everybody on here knows wtf their talking about and they just blow hot air from shit they read on Google and theyre on their 3rd cycle and think they know it all but really don't know shit they just repeat what they see other people saying.
Just use your judgement and don't hang on to everybody's words. You are your own experiment. Nobody else's.
Yes Tren master. Bless us with youre Trenknowledge.
Yes yes,
I like this. I like allot.
Tren test, tren deca, tren npp, tren EQ, tren mast, and best of all tren ace and tren enanthate at the same dam time. Let's get hot/ flashed, insomnia, cold sweats the fuck out.
But i promise when you working out your going to feel like 100000000000000 dollars.
Lmaoooo
EXACTLY Matey!!! NPP & Tren Ace works brilliantly together - only reason you aren't going to like the results is if you are wanting to look lean and cut from the Tren which the NPP is going to counteract. But for size, strength, better joints and tendons its the way to Gooooooo!!!
You are going to be dealing with more progesterone but it depends on if you find that part tough or not already.
Spot on big Mikey
Couldn’t agree more !
Exactly! And the worst of all is that these idiots want to say what is sacred and what is profane!!! Brother, what bothers me the most is people wanting to shit on rules as if they were perfect and knew everything! This is a sharing forum, people learn, share and help each other based on their experiences. At the end of the day, there are only adults here, so everyone does what they want with their own life!
No
I Said fuck it and ran it for my last cycle anyway. I ran 350 mg of a tren blend and 350mg of a deca blend and 700 grams of sust. Kinda liked it. In hindsight I wish I woulda swapped the deca blend for npp though
Bet ur joints felt awesome.
That would've Def been a good swap. With some mast p in there and your good to go.
Mast is the "hot sauce" of steroid's. Put that shit on everything !!! lmao.
Facts