posted Sun, 06/07/2020 - 11:51
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Could I be wasting my Prop
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Hi guys, new user here, I’m cycling HGH along side Prop to try things out, been on the stuff for almost a month now.
My brother (a med student) used to give me my prop injection for the first few weeks and I used to get some serious PIP as well as fever after for a couple days. But now he left to work abroad and I am left to give myself the injection but for some reason never get PIP nor fever anymore. Could I possibly be taking it wrong?
I take it in the glutes, I guess my question is could I be injecting the stuff in the fat or maybe not reaching the muscle?
Sorry for how new to this I sound.
Thank you in advance.
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thou shalt not waste " Testosterone Propionate "
That is my favorite injectable , check out one of the Injection forums on the search function bro.
Sorry I looked at this last night before I went to bed and didn’t look at your stats. That was irresponsible of me and I’m sorry for that.
You’re 5’11 and not even 180lbs... I don’t think you should be cycling at all. You haven’t researched enough if you’re only hitting glutes with prop. Or if you think it’s not working if you don’t get pip
You probabaly are wasting your prop because you don’t know what You’re doing with it. You’re you gotta learn to eat or this stuff is just gonna shut you down for no reason.
You really should build a better base (both knowledge and physically) before you get into this stuff.
Hi, thank you so much for taking the time to at my post a second time.
I’ll try to answer your questions as clearly as I could.
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What’s your training/diet look like?
I’ve been lifting for about 7 years now, not focused on size nor having a flawless physic more of a casual lifter and trying to look athletic in the process. The past few years I took a job that requires I travel every six months which affected my body and my workout routine.
How much prop are you injecting at a time?
I do 1m.
How often are you injecting it?
Once every two days.
And why HGH?!
The main reason I started this is to give my body a push as well as shred and shed the stupors fat I put on from all the travel, so I was advised to take HGH with an Ester to boost it.
How much HGH are you using per day?
8 UI, 4 morning 4 evening.
What AI do you have on hand?
What’s your post cycle look like?
What % bodyfat do you think you have?
20%
Ok. First, you don't use these drugs and potentially fuck up your whole body to "look athletic". that's what diet and exercise are for. These are not magic pills. You still need solid training and diet. And if you just want to look athletic, you don't need more than that.
To be honest I think you're too small to be using Test to cut fat. It's not a fat loss drug. People use test to preserve their muscle in a hard cut. You don't have enough muscle to loose in a cut. Your diet is the most important thing and that doesn't change when you throw these drugs into the mix. You gotta get serious about diet whether you're using drugs or not.
Second, That's WAYYYY too much growth!
8IU is outrageous. If you have real growth, that's out of control. If you're using growth for fat loss help, you're a grown up and I can't stop you (although I'd advise against it, it sounds like you're just looking for an easy way out), but 3-4iu TOPS should be more than enough. You're going to do some real damage if you keep up 8iu a day. Stop that.
You didn't answer my questions about an AI and what your post cycle looks like. that has me even more concerned. I'd stop the test, dude. You're gonna fuck yourself up.
Third, You didn't answer my question about diet and training. What does it look like? What are your macros? What type of food do you eat and how often? what's your training split? how do you train? how often do you train and for how long?
I guarantee you we can help you reach your goals without drugs if you just want to "look athletic". You just have to learn how to train and eat. which by the way, if you want drugs to work you have to learn anyhow.
This dude seems so green you might need to specify that by AI you don't mean Artificial Intelligence ;-)
How much are you using per week, you should really give more information
Some sites you can use bud are Glutes, outer quad, lat's (under the armpit), delts, chest (some don't like this). There are more than enough sites if you use both sides. Really though you should be using enanth or cyp rather than prop. As for the fever it could be down to bad gear, or just not being use to it at first but now you are. How long are the pins you are using to inject?
Thank you for the info, I’ll Definitely look into the quads and delts as well!
Can you tell me why Enanth or Cyp are better to uae, are thy also short esters?
My pin is 3 ml
You are WORRYING me with your answers - You need to quit what you are doing right now and build some basic knowledge up about steroids and injection technique, all of which can be found on this site.
AnonThis is why I only pin long esters. I won't pin more than twice a week. And I rotate glutes and quads only. Outer quad of course away from the femoral artery. Single use alcohol wipes every time. I use lots of single use alcohol wipes.
Do you still have to rotate so many places with a short Ester?
AnonEDIT: Don't use steroids. You lack the knowledge to do so.
Ive had an abscessed quad. Dont know how to post a link to it, but i posted all about it here years ago. Just paid off the $60,000 hospital bill when i sold my house two years ago. Rotate your pin sites.
Search through our forum. Engage in conversation with others. Come into our world, listen and you will learn the proper way to do this. You are on the brink of the world of AAS. You will not regret delving deeper and making connections.
Just looked at the pics and read about your ordeal. Very sobering. Sometimes we need a reminder.
I treat every single pin as if it were a pt on the ambulance or in the ER. But things can still go wrong. Getting ready to do my first cycle that includes prop. I never saw prop in the old days and since gearing up again I've only done Test E or C with my 19 nor cycles. Will be extra vigilant while pinning.
Damnit!
I see the pictures. Dont know how to post a link . Just looked at your profile.
Scary shit.
Did you have a full recovery is that leg weaker?
Wicked scar. Close to full recovery... but not quite. Definately not enough to slow me down.
Prop has to be injected every day or every other. If you are just using your glutes your brother (med student) must be only 3 months in because you are going to get an abscess. Is he a veterinarian or human med student? He should know that.
Your pip is from injecting the same spot over and over again in this case.
Maybe stop until you get more knowledge and better assistance than your brother.
Molinin302If you're getting a fever from testosterone, and I'm going to assume a remarkable fever, something's wrong.
“Test flu” could come alone if you’re using prop as your first cycle. I got it for a week when I used prop as my first cycle. That said I was injecting everyday and had 8 spots in my rotation. So after the first time or two around the “virgin muscle” was no longer virgin and the pip went away. It was just my first time with test and prop hits so quick if your body isn’t used to it... test flu.
Sounds like this might be his body got used to it, but he needs to get more sites before he gets an abscess like Mack mentioned.
To the OP though... if you were getting it into the fat and kissing the muscle the pip would be 5-10x as worse as what you experienced in the muscle. Get more spots. Side quad and quad are easy injects. Delts are easy If you’re not that big or if you’re mildly flexible. Ventroglute is easy... there’s 8 more spots to rotate thru.
Molinin302Bro, delts are my new favorite. Backload a slin pin, it's butter. To be open, I still get pip from the short esters including sust. Is what it is, but rotation is key.
I started pinning delts about 6 months ago and love having them in the rotation. Ive never back loaded a slin though. I'm not comfortable exposing the oil and the barrel to foreign particles. 27g 5/8in. Lure lock tips is the way to go for me. My local needle exchange has tons of them. The junkies won't use them because they leave a bit behind in the barrel.