Bizarre BW results
In June I started on 200mg / week of Test Cyp for HRT. At the beginning of September I switched from my prescribed Test Cyp to 250 mg Test Cyp from a very highly ranked and well respected supplier on this site. I went to 250 mg twice a week. During July and August I had multiple BW tests that each time had me in the 1500-1600 range on total and 42-46 on free (LabCorp). I've kept E2 in check with prescribed Arimidex. These results were on 200 mg/wk.
So after 6 injections of the "new" Test Cyp I had BW done again and the results came back at 856 and 27 respectively (same lab, same sample time).
Has anyone every seen a 2.5x increase in test result in a 50% drop in test values if the gear is dosed as expected? I'm not writing this to bash the supplier. The supplier gave me a response about trying BW again at 6 weeks. I know it is a long ester but how could I have dropped from my baseline if the Test Cyp was "good"? The results should have been no lower than where I started at. I just would like a sanity check here on what could have happened under the assumption the Test Cyp was dosed properly.
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very odd, I doubt the ugl test. I can send 1 vial for free of test from Kalpa Pharmaceuticals on which I am on right now and you can test it and post here results.
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SickNick... forgot to mention that I also take HCG (250 UI twice per week). So that should help clarify why 200 mg/wk keeps me elevated to the 1500-1600 range.
So really the Test Cyp (UGL) probably hasn't been doing squat when you account for the HCG.
Shit man. The hcg will kick your LH into test production so honestly your probably making more test naturally than that ugl is giving you. Either you got bunk test or you have an extremly long ester not cypionate.
WTF! Seriously??? I really hope this isn't the supplier I think it is... I'm just about to shore up my next cycle and order more gear. Guy is pinning 500mg compared to 200mg dose of Pharma and went from 1500-1600 to 800s ???? Please fucking tell me this a fluke.
By the same time I meant the morning of the injection day. I inject Monday morning and Thursday evenings. So all BW has been done Thursday mornings. I have never missed a dose.
I went from Test Cyp (pharmaceutical) to Test Cyp (UGL). I'm meticulous about schedule, etc. 3 weeks should have been plenty of time to reflect the effects. I wouldn't expect max levels but I should have been above 2000 without any issue.
Thanks for the replies. I won't name the source but if I did people would call me a liar due to their reputation. And I have absolutely nothing against the supplier. Just bummed my first experience with UGL has been less than expected.
Yea Bro, Underdosed! Or just oil!
So here is the issue, first off, 1500 to 1600 at 200mg a week sounds astronomically high, meaning that your test is not originally as low as you think when not on trt. For you to have those kind of levels from 200 a week that would mean you have decent test already in your system. At 200 a week, my levels looked more like gorillafits levels.
As for the other ugl test cyp, at 250 mgs twice a week (500 mgs a week), your levels should absolutely not have dropped unless you missed a shot, or stopped taking it for a while. If you continued the same regime with no space in between and then simply started to take the ugl 250 2 times a week, then your test should be way higher after just a week. Here are some of the issues it could be; the test is underdosed, or the ester is different.
The numbers kind of point to both. It sounds like the testosterone is almost exactly dosed half of what it should be to drop like that. At the same time, giving the benefit of the doubt, the test may also be a different ester that is longer. This would mean it could take more time to get fully in your system and you wouldn't see the numbers yet. An ester such as test decanoate or test undecanoate would take a few weeks to even show up in your system.
Overall, it sounds a little odd to me, and I would write to the source.
When you say same sample time, are you saying you got blood drawn the same number of days after the injection? If so, sounds underdosed? 200mg of Watson Test C, 1 week after initial shot had my Test Serum at 848. http://www.eroids.com/pics/trt-blood-test-1-week-after-200mg-watson-cyp-...
Gfit has big skills in your question. I'll let him get ya lined up.
If you were on hrt//trt for several Weeks prior....the this big drop....underdosed.