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better for recomp and harding

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What is better for recomp and harding; Var or Tbol?

Thanks

PIN_CUSHION's picture

So far your start here at eroids has not been to good

vhman's picture

Need some real stats before anyone can help.

heady muscle's picture

Stats updated.

I am on a PH run right now posted under supplements of the IMF. I will take a short break and move to either Tbol/ Var/ low test. Or either Tbol/test or Var/test.

There is many rules to get used to here. Be patient. I've been involved with juice for twenty five years and have a lot I can teach, but I still want to learn.

vhman's picture

Thanks for posting them. We need them to know what we're dealing with.
Why are you doing a PH with all of your background? I would drop it ASAP and get on a solid PCT.
What are your previous cycles? What are your goals here?

heady muscle's picture

I guess I put everyone asleep with that synopsis! Lmao!

vhman's picture

Sorry, I missed the whole thing. I am still at a loss why you would want to keep running all these PH and orals. They are very harsh on your liver and you're not young guy anymore (were about the same age) and the older you get the harder it is for you body to recover, especially your liver.
Why not go with a nice test run. Maybe one other compound? Much safer and effective.

heady muscle's picture

Vh,

I appreciate your point of view and do see it. This is one cycle, not a life time and I take long breaks in between. I am looking for the subtle affect, not the dramatic.
Believe me, I will go with the lowest dose possible to mitigate side effects and incorporate many means to lessen those (such as herbs, medicinal mushrooms, etc...). I have been on this path a long time and trust myself. It doesn't mean I know everything, no one does, but I take precautions and get checked up regularly. If I thought I was doing any great harm, I wouldn't do it.

heady muscle's picture

Here we go:

I have been training steady since I was 15 years old. I am now mid-forties. I haven't competed in any body building shows since I think 91' or 92'. Back in the mid eighties I started on Var and then Dbol at age 17. After graduating High School, it went up from there. Deca/test Equipose WinV Anad50 you name it. Pre filled syringe stuff (sustanon 250/Deca. The needle in those fudgers were nails!) My favorite was parabolan. especially the ether taste after injecting. PCT (didn't call that then), was clomid when available and it wasn't often and HCG. I bought Dan Duchane's UnderGround book pretty much when it came out. I had it until 5 years ago, I lost it in a move or maybe it is still in a box.

I worked at a few clubs and did personal training long ago

I quit competing because I got tired of the BS associated with it. I figured out I was not going to win the NPC championship or the night of the champions so I should move on.

Since then I've done many PH's. Some work fine, some were garbage. I still have bunch on hand and have purchased some of the newer stuff lately (triumphalis, Dianodrol Trest). I got them cheap and may or may not use them.

My training nowadays is three to four days a week lifting. The rest cardio and yoga.
I do not go heavy often any more. I mostly do supersets and giants. I do not go over 225 let say for a bench or even squats. I do not want to beat my joints any further. I am fortunate to have healthy joints (knock on wood) and I want to keep them that way.
I am 5' 7'' and had my body fat measured at 13% last year. I am just trying to stay tight. Doing a pretty good job of it.

I eat super clean. I haven't eaten fast food in over twenty five years. Clarence Bass type of diet from the original Ripped (still have a copy). Lots of lean meats, no soft carbs, Brown rices and other heavy grains.

I decided to the Log for the DMZ 3.0 on a whim. The guy on IMF seems like a pretty good guy and didn't seem to be getting any responses. I thought it would be a good filler until I find what I want. I have ten days left, I will finish it. Do some clomid/nolva. Take a month off or two and then do a Var/Tbol combo with low test or whatever. I am not trying to add size. Don't need more mass at my age. Just tightening things up and striping down some. I haven't used Tbol before and haven't used Var in twenty years. It has always been hard to get good Var. Back in the day I would get Searle at 2.5g and those suckers worked great!

That's a quick summary.