posted Thu, 10/06/2011 - 01:49
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ive never used tren before so i just want to try it out, i know ther is a few different ones like acetate, enanthate, tri-tren and so on... the thing is i dont know which one is used for bulking. does anyone know which one is best?
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DIET will ultimately determine if your BULKING or CUTTING.
You can certainly use TREN(S) for either effectively.
None, As stated below tren isn't for bulking.
I've been toying with the idea of using Tren to bulk. On Tren ace no sides. Great gains though and it has my appetite through the roof. Has have mentioned you will have to be in calorie surplus obviously.
Tren is a crappy bulking compound. Why are you bumping a 5 year old thread?
This seems to be the consensus. I gained 7 pounds off Tren ace on a maintainance diet. If the user can bear the side and appetite suppression Tren with test and dbol or drol will put on quality lean mass. We all react differently to compounds. I apologize for bumping a 5 year old thread. But it amazes me to see the same thing being said about Tren not bring a good bulking compound. No disrespect to you or anyone else. I'm just speaking from my personal experience.
Tren is great in its ability to partition nutrients. It improves feed efficiency. That is why it was developed to fatten cattle before slaughter to make our steaks thicker and juicer. The cattle can "maintain" their diets while gaining muscle tissue and fat.
I'm not saying you cannot bulk on it, I am saying it is certainly not optimal for that.
For a bulk, plain old deca is still the best. It will pull more water into your muscles than Tren does which is a nice boost to strength and pulls water into your joints for a nice joint lube that acts as an anesthetic while at the same time protecting the joints. That's why we call it "Deca Joint Joy." LMAO
Thanks gearhead for clearing that up. I love Deca as well.
the compound doesnt matter, its your diet that makes you cut or bulked up. but the ester attached to the compound can help. if your going to run the tren for longer than 8 weeks then go with the enanthate ester or the tri tren. if your going to keep it around 6-8 weeks then go with the acetate ester. but if your really trying to add on as much mass as possible and your not worried about the bloat look then go with deca, and of course use test as a base.
and one estered tren is not "better" than the other ones, it just depends on what you want to run and how long you want to run it, but that doesnt mean that you cant use tren ace for 10 weeks, because ive done it, you just have to inject more frequently. its up to you really.
thanks guys you helped me out a lot. you all seem to know what your talkin about, so il take your advice and keep it in mind. i think il just try the tren ace and see how it goes
Anonto the op listen to these guys below they know what there talking about
approch tren with caution
Tren in any ester isn't that great for bulking IMHO. Let me also 2nd what Hllwdbd said Tren isn't for the beginner, I fucked up and ran Tren ace on my second cycle ever (impressive body resculpting- I will admit ). I wasn't ready for the sides though. Mainly the change in attitude, holy fuck I was a ass. It all came very close to ending my marriage, True and fucked up story. But if u absolutely must run it then use Ace, if sides become too much it will clear your system in a few short days.
Best of luck,
Jab.
I don't buy into the "not good for bulking" line of thinking. IMO...all steroids will put mass on you if you eat enough calories. Some just make you bloat more that others. Tren doesn't bloat you at all. If you want nice clean muscle gains Tren excels....the sides notwithstanding.
(IMO) there is a great difference between "bulking" and "lean gains"... but to some I guess it's to-ma-to, to-mah-to
tren is NOT for the NOVICE AAS user, but if u must... just on inexperience alone, if you have NOT used tren before start with tren A... that way if sides get TOO rough they will ride out in a few days as opposed to a couple of wks. do ur research and get some prami or cabor to battle sides.
...and tren isn't great for bulking but you will see some AMAZING some amazing body recomp
I agree with TRT ive used tren ace on a cycle but the night sweet sucks so bad and you get winded pretty easy..Its not good for bulking thiers other options
ive always used test 400 or test enanthate and deca. they have all worked well for me, i just fancy tryin something different now and ive heard tren is good stuff so i thought il give it a try. im not too bothered about side effects really as long as i put some good size on
Anonwell if you want to do an all out bulk then tren is not the best imo ,yes tren is a great compound and gives great results but yu will find tren gives leaner mass than the likes of deca also your diet will be the main factor in how much bulk you put on ..
the thing with tren is the sides can be harsh so most people recomend useing the ace ester for first time use becasue if you do start getting sides you can handdle you can stop and they will be gone in around 2-5 days as ace is a short ester ,nw useing the ace ester will mean you ahve to inject every day or every other atleast,useing enanthate will mean if you see sides you could be dealing with them for upto 2 weeks after you stop
test prop and tren a for 8-10 weeks is a great lean mass cycle
test e and tren is is as good over say 12 weeks but again if the sides are to harsh you will hae to wait around 2 weeks for the ester to ttoaly leave your system .
another option is a test e and nandrolone deca cycle with aybe a dbol or drol kick start
there are many factors you have to take into account when useing like pct /serms/hcg on cycle to prevent total hota shut down and aid a better recover ect ect
whats your cycle experance ? hight/weight/age/body fat %
sorry for the long post i am just trying to cover everything so you get the best advise imo
I don't like the idea of a kick start with long esters long test e or cyp. It takes 3-4 weeks for you to reach peak blood levels. I'd front load the test e or cyp first week. So if you were running 750mgs/week your first jab on Monday wound be 750mgs for the week. This will allow for to reach peak blood levels by week 2 no later than week 3. This is when you should add the dbol to get the maximum synergistic effect and since they will be both working together concurrently you will also reap the benefits of the strength gains from both compounds.