posted Sun, 03/08/2020 - 21:37
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Aromatization rate of NPP? EQ?
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What is the percentage that NPP aromatizes to estrogen? What about EQ? Personally I have heard NPP aromatizes at 20% the rate of testosterone and EQ aromatizes at 50% the rate of testosterone... even tho it is common for people to suggest EQ over NPP because they say EQ aromatizes far less then NPP? I would like if someone had some concrete answers and facts on this not just bro science!
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RustyhookerI would like if someone had some concrete answers and facts on this not just bro science!
You will never get anything concrete with your question. Its 100% answered by YOUR bloods tested alone. Control estro and prolactin is in control.
For me eq mild ai that if i dont run test above 450 with eq 750...i need no ai. BUT THATS ME. If i add masteron into it i must add estro by tne or im too low.
Npp too is whole nother beast. Some run it higher and pecker is broken. Other run it low.
Theres no custom answer here. Just like dudes running massive amounts of ai gor small test cycles. Oh thers run a gram test with no ai. BLOODS IS YOUR SCIENCE
Those figures are somewhat accurate.
EQ is technically “more mild” in side effects because npp can directly act on the progesterone receptor. Also it acts to increase your sensitivity to estrogen and prolactin. Let’s say you normally have a little estro spike here and there and it’s no problem right? If you add npp that usual estrogen spike could turn into gyno, even though it’s no higher than usual (for you).
Now while EQ aromatizes much less than test, it also partially aromatizes into a mild aromatase inhibitor. Some guys don’t notice it much, some guys feel this effect so much they can actually use EQ instead of aromasin or arimidex and need to keep test high just to maintain normal estrogen levels while running EQ.
As you can see estrogen is tremendously individual. I’m currently running deca with zero testosterone. I do NOT recommend that, but after years of experimenting and bloodwork that’s what produces good results and zero sides for me. Fortunately nandrolone has a TON of medical literature on it so a quick google search will turn up more reading than you could ever need on the subject. EQ less so.
Depends on your body , I tolerate NPP much better than EQ.
Don't forget to do bloods!
X2 everyone is different. Pretty much nothing will go by the book and the way you planned it lol
P2i2tHonestly when it comes to NPP what I can add is the fact that it aromatises to Progesterone at a much higher rate than it aromatizes into estrogen. Caber is a much better friend for NPP than say something like aromasin or Arimidex. I'm about to do NPP in this upcoming cycle. And I have cabaser brand cabergoline all set. Although I will also use my aromasin for the testosterone aromatization to E2. But with NPP I don't worry about estrogen aromatization. I worry about progesterone. But if you get your blood work done and check your E2 levels, then dose your AI correctly based off of those numbers
NPP does not aromatize into progesterone. That’s not a thing. It is a progestogen itself, and binds to the progesterone receptor.
Caber is also not to combat progesterone, it is to combat prolactin. Prolactin can be raised due to raised progestogens and estradiol.
High estradiol can also raise prolactin.
Know your shit before you start schooling people. This is how false information spreads, and why “bro science” has a bad name.
P2i2tI do understand that that was not your question. And I'm sorry for just putting in my own opinion and facts without actually answering the question you asked. I am sure there is still estrogen conversion but my guess is it is pretty low. Sorry I cannot give hard facts right now. The progesterone is the biggest thing to watch out for when using that compound or any 19 nor