Black powder

Many people mentioning c4 cellucor and I agree is one of the best. I mix it with no explode and also cycle it. It gives me what I want in the gym without some of the stuff i dont, headaches, nasuea, ect.

my formula = 2 scoops no explode orange before workout, 1 scoop cellucor c4 extreme organge midway thru workout.

I' have taken no x-plods and currently taking musclepharm assault. Personally liked x-plode better and have a buddy that's taking NO x-plode 2.0 the new formula and loves it so going back.

I drink coffee . Love it . It's like a pre work out drink . Drink it with plenty of water .

Jack3d sent me to the clinic with heaps of weird shit happening. Folliculitus, colds, sweats, fever, nausea. Turns out it was my kidneys shitting themselves. Won't go near pre-workouts anymore, will just drink coffee.

Love the dudes who bash on gear - "It's so bad for you" but then take all this other otc shit which they have no idea what it's doing to them.

Just finished with C4 and honestly it's the best pre workout I've used so far...and my history is extensive.. Ordered a tub of 1MR and waiting to see how that is.

I have tried 1MR , Nano pre , and cellucore C4 , Jack3D out of all of them I ahave noticed more energy and pumps with the C4 not to mention it is a pleasure to drink all the flavors are great plus jack3d people swear by it but really didnt do much for me also its loaded with caffeine. 1MR was good but holy shit was it nasty. Nano had some pumps but not like with the C4

heres a link http://cellucor.com/product/c4-extreme

Screw the boosters, just stop drinking caffeine regularly and take a tablet or an espresso before workout.

Works fine for me.

I love jacked, but I changed recently to hyper fx its awesome..

love me some jacked. i dont abuse it, i just use it for the days i feel like im slack'ish

I take a single 200mg caffeine tab usually. If cutting I add 25mg eph and 300mg aspirin and I'm bouncing off the walls.

Meant to say there is something that regrades your receptors as per DMAA (apparently) - the big ingredient in energy drinks. A lot of lads took it in R/League to reset there's- before you got a 3 year ban for taking DMAA that is. If there's interest I'll ask.

everybody here is right... safe yourself the cash. ephed/caffeine an hour before you lift. I usually pop 4-600 mgs of caffeine and 32 mg of ephed.

Caffeine tabs are super cheap as are the basic ingredients that go in drinks like Jack3d etc.. Just buy them. In the UK you can even buy DMAA on ebay dirt cheap. I usually save such things for leg days and just fly solo the rest of the time. Keeps your receptors fresh.

i spent a ton of money on pre workouts sucha as super pump, no explode, 1mr, jacked....etc. I havn't had the money to run a pre workout in a long time and honestly, I havn't had less gains after stopping taking them. They did give me a lot of energy but it wasn't like I had huge overall gains from them. By the way, I used jacked many times and I would become amune to it quickly. When this would happen I would stop using it for at least a month then when I started using it again I used a minimal dose of a 1/2 scoop to 1 full scoop and it helped me not become amune to it so fast but it would still happen. It sounds to me like your having the same problem I had of becoming amune to jacked.

Hey mate I really wish these preworkout drinks would get banned. They are becoming the main reason for renal failure over here in Oz. they are not good for you at all bro. Do your body a service and drop that shit. I would rather take 100mg of Abombs a day than that shit. If you want something to give you a boost before a workout have a look at what motivates you naturally anyway. If you are flat going to the gym there is a good chance that it is for a reason and you may be starting to overtrain. Alot of people are starting to rely on these drinks instead of listening to their bodies. If that doesn't work look at caffeen products bro but naturally get motivated before you go is the best bet

Caffeine bro, forget about all them pree workouts "proprietary blend" in other words F you I ain't telling you shit. Save yourself the cash and get yourself some protein powder.

Ephedrine would suit.those.goals to some extent

TNE. Test no eater. JK. My favorite preworkout right now has to hemorage ultra concentrate. Never had to go above 1 1/2 scoops. I would say your best bet is to find a stim free preworkout and an ECA stack.