+ 3 **Anabolic Steroids and PTSD**
Ok now that I have you attention just let me say be careful. This post is more about PTSD and your overall health. So I wanted to share this in the forum and if it helps 1 person it was worth posting. I ran across this and I'm passing it on.
If you just got back or been back for a while you may want to read this. One of the hardest things I have noticed when a guy gets back is trying to explain to someone he loves what he's been through. This might help your wife,girlfriend, significant other to better understand.These are the words you are missing. It is every thing you wanted and needed to say but just don't know how. This is on point and exactly what people need to know if they are going to get involved with a combat vet. How many of my friends here can attest to this?Let me know what you think.
Top 10 Things Your Combat Vet Wants You To Know:
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He is addicted to war, although he loves you. War is horrible, but there is nothing like a life-and-death fight to make you feel truly alive. The adrenaline rush is tremendous, and can never be...replaced. Succeeding in combat defines a warrior, places him in a brotherhood where he is always welcome and understood. The civilian world has adrenaline junkies as well; just ask any retired firefighter, police officer, or emergency room staff if they miss it.
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Living for you is harder. It would be easy for him to die for you because he loves you. Living for you, which is what you actually want, is harder for him. It is even harder for him if you are smart and do not need him to rescue you, since rescuing is something he does really well. If you are very competent at many things, he may at times question if you need him at all. He may not see that you stay with him as a conscious choice.
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"The training kicks in" means something very different to him. It is direct battle doctrine that when ambushed by a superior force, the correct response is "Apply maximum firepower and break contact." A warrior has to be able to respond to threat with minimal time pondering choices. While this is life-saving in combat, it is not helpful in the much slower-paced civilian world. A better rule in the civilian world would be to give a reaction proportionate to the provocation. Small provocation, small response (but this would get you killed on the battlefield). When the training becomes second nature, a warrior might take any adrenaline rush as a cue to "apply maximum firepower." This can become particularly unfortunate if someone starts to cry. Tears are unbearable to him; they create explosive emotions in him that can be difficult for him to control. Unfortunately, that can lead to a warrior responding to strong waves of guilt by applying more "maximum firepower" on friends, family, or unfortunately strangers.
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He is afraid to get attached to anyone because he has learned that the people you love get killed, and he cannot face the pain again. He may make exception for his children (because they cannot divorce him), but that will be instinctual and he will probably not be able to explain his actions.
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He knows the military exists for a reason. The sad fact is that a military exits ultimately to kill people and break things. This was true of our beloved "Greatest Generation" warriors of WWII, and it remains true to this day. Technically, your warrior may well be a killer, as are his friends. He may have a hard time seeing that this does not make him a murderer. Although they may look similar at first glance, he is a sheepdog protecting the herd, not a wolf trying to destroy it. The emotional side of killing in combat is complex. He may not know how to feel about what he's seen or done, and he may not expect his feelings to change over time. Warriors can experience moments of profound guilt, shame, and self-hatred. He may have experienced a momentary elation at "Scoring one for the good guys", then been horrified that he celebrated killing a human being. He may view himself as a monster for having those emotions, or for having gotten used to killing because it happened often.
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He's had to cultivate explosive anger in order to survive in combat. He may have grown up with explosive anger as well.
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He may have only been nineteen when he first had to make a life and death decision for someone else. What kind of skills does a nineteen-year-old have to deal with that kind of responsibility? One of my veterans put it this way: "You want to know what frightening is? It's a nineteen-year-old boy who's had a sip of that power over life and death that war gives you. It's a boy who, despite all the things he's been taught, knows that he likes it. It's a nineteen-year-old who's just lost a friend, and is angry and scared, and determined that some fucker is gonna pay. To this day, the thought of that boy can wake me from a sound sleep and leave me staring at the ceiling."
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He may believe that he's the only one who feels this way; eventually he may realize that at least other combat vets understand. On some level, he doesn't want you to understand, because that would mean you had shared his most horrible experience, and he wants someone to remain innocent.
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He doesn't understand that you have a mama bear inside of you, that probably any of us could kill in defense of someone if we need to. Imagine your reaction if someone pointed a weapon at your child?
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When you don't understand, he needs you to give him the benefit of the doubt. He needs you also to realize that his issues really aren't about you, although you may step in them sometimes. Truly, the last thing he wants is for you to become a casualty of his war.
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This is a very thoughtful post, Thank You.
Good stuff here!!!!
Well said by all. Thank you.
nice list. I would like it to be reworded for my co workers. I had one express to me that they were worried about me and scarred that I never get angry.
They think I'm going to explode.
Not true. But perhaps this can help them to see things from my perspective.
I haven't shut off the part of me that feels stress, I just dont give a shit any more about civilian dip dunks with there simple know nothing attitudes. Highj school clicks into there 30's and 40's.
Simple minds watching a ball being thrown on a flickering screen.
I wont get angry at these fucktards. But when I see one of my brothers fucking up I unleash hell on them. Recently on this forums a young USMC vet talked about "What a man he is" "I kill" " I want to join Isreal"
basically with this attitude you can go fuck your self. You lower the respect of every civilian I meet for me. They all wonder when I'm going to snap, when I'm going to revert back to being some killer. NEVER.
It's always a choice. I choose peace and wisdom of violence and ignorance
Have PTSD from OEF, on my 3rd cycle currently, still new to the game.......I have my outbursts, so far none of the meds I take have caused any issues while on cycle.......just stay away from the loud mother fuckers in the gym....fking idiots cant shut up sometimes....thanks for the info man.
Thanks for posting this! Many folks cant even explain it.
You got that right. Hope it helps them to explain it to family so they can understand what they are going thru.
DP
AnonI have ptsd and I didnt go to war whats that tell you about how I was raised and what I went through lol im bipolar aswell but im doing well due to counsling and mez lol!
Thank you for posting this MegaT883.
Hope it helps homebrewed.
whats this have to do with steroids?
ac89 those who have PTSD know exactly what this has to do with steroids. Another thing I want to point out those who have PTSD and were involed in an explosive event or injury need to get checked for TBI(Tramatic Brain Injury)
Guess you've never been shot at........reread that then add tren. That better?
what really bothers me still Is the back door labeling Combat veterans get from civilians. I am proud. I wear my USMC gear almost daily. This is what I did to fight the war on terror so that others here could eat drink fuck and be merry. I have suffered from all types of shit for years, and none of these civilians are trying to help. Just label me"dammaged"
veterans have a higher unemployment rate than civilians.
Veterans kill them selves 25 times a day
veterans live with deep shit, and there is no PCT for it. Theres no HCG, theres no Caber for what happens to us.
Well fuck all that.
I sure as shit am not going to lower myself, and act the fol. Have an out burst, make veterans look worse.
It allmost feels like I'm Black in 1950
I agree with some of the stats you wrote. But I disagree and have to say as far as civilian support and charities there is more now then ever before. Also there is more openly shown gratitude for those who have served. We fought for our country and most of all for the men next to us. As for me it wasn't so people could "eat,drink,fuck and be merry" it was for country, family, friends, and team mates. The by product of that service was others who are citizens who are morons got to enjoy the former. I imagine your reason for service was the same Marine.
Amen to that brother I feel you knocking man civilians will never understand the meaning of living because they never looked at the face of death and lived or seeing what we have Semper Fi
Exactly fast48